tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post1951912552157319841..comments2024-03-23T23:52:14.690+05:30Comments on DefenceNet: Defence News from Sri Lanka: SLAF bombs Mullaithiv, plans to buy MiG29s for air defenceDefenceNethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11553575476849786179noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-6407439200664462202007-05-18T22:38:00.000+05:302007-05-18T22:38:00.000+05:30Check this article out!http://timesofindia.indiati...Check this article out!<BR/>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_to_acquire_4_more_Aerostats/articleshow/2041886.cms<BR/>This is the exact type of radar we need with the heavy vegetation in Sri Lanka and this will essentially perform the function of static AWACS system to detect low flying planes from far away! <BR/>I will put money on it that india will stop from going for a very good system like this one instead we will have to buy their shitty indigenous ground based 2D and 3D radars.Kanishkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04704213213880732962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-63080051315681542992007-05-14T07:37:00.000+05:302007-05-14T07:37:00.000+05:30DefencenetThanks for hosting links to my two sites...Defencenet<BR/><BR/>Thanks for hosting links to my two sites.TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-72446711651060892002007-05-14T07:33:00.000+05:302007-05-14T07:33:00.000+05:30we still do have a few serviceable Sia Marchettis ...we still do have a few serviceable Sia Marchettis and other turbo-props which are currently being used for triaining purposes only. <BR/><BR/>Is there any particular reason why we cannot use these aircraft to counter the tiger tincans ? My question is based on the fact that they need not even cross into tiger terrain, but can confront the bomb laden and hence less manueverable Zlins with greater ease once they cross into govt areas and blow them away..<BR/><BR/>There are also isolated media reports that the tiger aircraft have been sighted in the Wilpattu jungles. If that's the case we should be seeing the end-game for air-tigers soon.TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-50863689006530962912007-05-13T22:40:00.000+05:302007-05-13T22:40:00.000+05:30Tropicalstorm,New site linked.We really do need to...Tropicalstorm,<BR/>New site linked.<BR/><BR/>We really do need to make the truth heard. The problem is that pro LTTE media have had a head start. And we dont think GoSL is trying to make their sites look reliable either.<BR/><BR/>What we need is sites that express the truth (regardless of who won and how many died)<BR/>DefenceNet blog has been trying to do this and indeed the responses we have got so far , exceeded expectations. We'll launch RSS feeds, E-mail subscriptions, Link exchanges in near future to promote the site.DefenceNethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553575476849786179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-19413851674758026072007-05-13T22:32:00.000+05:302007-05-13T22:32:00.000+05:30Tropicalstorm,Cool site, we'll link to that once w...Tropicalstorm,<BR/>Cool site, we'll link to that once we get the time.DefenceNethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553575476849786179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-88865568200496189092007-05-13T19:15:00.000+05:302007-05-13T19:15:00.000+05:30Defencenet, any comments on the news that the LTTE...Defencenet, any comments on the news that the LTTE aircraft are hidden in the Wilpattu jungles?<BR/><BR/>If that's the case we would bot need the Mig29s any more...TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-28289905880060218272007-05-13T19:13:00.000+05:302007-05-13T19:13:00.000+05:30Personally I am happy to see increasing engagement...Personally I am happy to see increasing engagement and interest in our much educated younger generation in matters of national security and defence. In the years gone by, it was only the voices of those who spread evil rumors about Sri Lanka that was heard, with a total absence of contradictory arguments. So it really doesn't matter whether these voices are holding decision making positions or not right now. They will form the basis of strong opinion as they grow in numbers and begin to matter in making Sri Lankan politics sound, rational and just. <BR/><BR/>So do keep up your engagement in what is happening in our motherland and also encourage other youngsters like yourselves to become more actively engaged in seeking information and having their voices heard. That is how democracy works; it must be representative of the needs of the voter. We do need to strengthen democracy and voter choice in Sri Lanka not only in daily governance, but also in how all expenditures are handled, including those of the military. It is our taxx money that is being spent and we have the inalienable right to know what it is going to accomplish.TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-58939438915805300182007-05-13T18:56:00.000+05:302007-05-13T18:56:00.000+05:30Check out this new SLAF blog sitehttp://srilankaai...Check out this new SLAF blog site<BR/>http://srilankaairforce.blogspot.com/TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-41416149727385509572007-05-12T17:17:00.000+05:302007-05-12T17:17:00.000+05:30http://algama.blogspot.com/http://algama.blogspot....http://algama.blogspot.com/<BR/>http://algama.blogspot.com/http://algama.blogspot.com/Arunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05659440548695458987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-91456641824752533242007-05-08T12:46:00.000+05:302007-05-08T12:46:00.000+05:30I agree with Naveendran 100%, after all we are not...I agree with Naveendran 100%, after all we are not the people who decide on these Military acquisitions. there might be Top Panels who decide what we want and what we don't want? we are just guys who are interested in these matters and thats it!.dhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-11812618423044431752007-05-08T12:14:00.000+05:302007-05-08T12:14:00.000+05:30Yes, Earlier on when we about to purchase Kfirs at...Yes, Earlier on when we about to purchase Kfirs at that time, some people said that its an "Over kill" too.. just imagine SLAF without Kfirs.. Suicidal! <BR/><BR/>Like Jiffy said we can Modified these 29s to Multi role version. recently Malaysia bought couple of MIG 29s with Multi role Configuration.. (Like arming up with Anti ship missiles)<BR/><BR/>This is our Best shot.. Now Or Never! :o)dhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-18957856423852972472007-05-08T12:03:00.000+05:302007-05-08T12:03:00.000+05:30I do not know what is military secrets or not mili...I do not know what is military secrets or not military secrets but the SL military inteligence establishment and their LTTE counterparts know more information then probabily any of the forumers on what is the implication or needs or their and their enemies moves.<BR/><BR/>Thanks to the internet, more people know information and reliable and up to date information then do people without that access. Some people in the forum claim to know a pilot or a senior military personnel etc. Often they do this to give weight to their arguments. Well even I could say I met X or Y person and he tells me stuff.<BR/><BR/>What is more important is not to devulge things like the pilots like to go for a holiday in kandy etc. This is information that the LTTE might or might not know. <BR/><BR/>Remember the LTTE attack on KAB was no conincidence that the radars were not working. The reaction to the attack and their subsequent attack shows that they have much better tactical intelligence then what has been seen in the forum.<BR/><BR/>Its not the forumers fault. Often we are with limited information and knowing such information maybe of intrest to us but it does not make or break us.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877388889244119062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-26722545720676947242007-05-08T10:54:00.000+05:302007-05-08T10:54:00.000+05:30Guys Plz don't expose military details out, some o...Guys Plz don't expose military details out, some of you may have internal information but this will be harmful to our nation.Dickwijayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01135882361621720979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-8598240251935283222007-05-08T10:15:00.000+05:302007-05-08T10:15:00.000+05:30the mig can be upgraded to carry out multi-role op...the mig can be upgraded to carry out multi-role operations, but that does incur additional cost. like dinushka says the reasoning seems to be on the long term military and r&d needs of the country. a precedent is always a risk, but it could have a lot of unintended positives down the track. this may not be the most pragmatic solution, but perhaps the knock on consequences are too early to judge.jiffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13887428528500885295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-81383018767399489262007-05-08T09:53:00.000+05:302007-05-08T09:53:00.000+05:30Dhinuksha, I really don't think MiG 29 could repla...Dhinuksha, I really don't think MiG 29 could replace our Kfirs cos they are primarily used in the air superiority role and aren't really designed to carry out ground attacks. We could go for some of the newer variants, but they would probably be way out of our price range. Plus we don't have any pilots who can fly MiG29s so we'll have to get Ukrainian or Pakistani pilots to fly any newly acquired aircraft. That would mean more nonsense speculation in the media.<BR/><BR/>I personally think we'll be a lot better off upgrading our air defense systems than trying to take out the LTTE aircraft in the air. According to the weekend newspapers India has agreed to provide us more radars, and upgrade some of the current ones to 3D. <BR/><BR/>We're also supposed to be getting (wonder if anyone here can confirm this?) an advanced air defense system in a few weeks. Focusing on air defense would make a lot more sense than blowing millions of dollars on aircraft we might use just 4 or 5 times (provided they do their job and shoot down an LTTE aircraft each time).Illegal.existencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607233043045287352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-92070362482182805892007-05-08T07:45:00.000+05:302007-05-08T07:45:00.000+05:30I've got your point. but what about the upgrade ti...I've got your point. but what about the upgrade time and costs(To Kfir C10 as you referred).. and about C7s, we already got 2 C7s. which are capable of night flying (Are those still fly worthy?).. plus We already got Pilots who's familiar with MIG cockpits (MIG27) which is similar to MIG 29. what we don't have is, pilots with Dogfight capabilities. even if we got Kfirs but we don't know how to use them.. <BR/><BR/>If the SLAF wants to sell off the KFIRS after the MIG Purchase, still we save some money after all? right?<BR/><BR/>And I'm telling you My Friend :o)<BR/>Military R&D (I'm Not referring to Nukes) is never a waste.. Ever..And we cant predict that our neighbors will stay like this for ever. Any Guarantee on that? :o)dhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-2949464843380320172007-05-07T23:13:00.000+05:302007-05-07T23:13:00.000+05:30So are you saying we should start a nuclear missil...So are you saying we should start a nuclear missile program, arm ouselves to the max anticipating a foreign invasion. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate deterent arent they? You need to weigh out the benefits with the costs. Will the benefit of buying Mig 29's be greater than the costs? In todays global political environment, a country like Sri Lanka does not need to arm itself in fear of an international invasion. We have good diplomatic relations with our neighbours, the current global superpower, the US, and possibly the future superpower China. If we were Iran, or say Zimbabwe, then we should be worried about invasions. We are relatively well integrated into global politics that we shouldn't face a credible threat from a foreign invasion. Thus coming back to my point, the benefits are almost entirely outweighed by the costs. Its like saying you need to take out insurance for eveything negative that could happen, arming yourself in expectation of an invasion (in Sri Lanka's case) is like buying insurance for something like Kawasakies disease, VERY VERY rare, and even if it does happens, the chances of your insuarance being able to bail you out is not 100%. In the case of invasion, even with 6 Mig-29s we will need foreign help. Save the money, build some bridges, hospitals or whatever, make the country actually grow without wasting the little money the politicians havent sqaundered. Judging by past experience, the graft in this deal will be excessive given the asking price for a 29.Raptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09262229921489144485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-58119279650159563832007-05-07T22:54:00.000+05:302007-05-07T22:54:00.000+05:30The Question is,Do we need to stop Funding our for...The Question is,<BR/><BR/>Do we need to stop Funding our forces after this war/Problem..? <BR/><BR/>if the answer is yes.. then what do we do if something happens to our nation? (I'm not talking about going to war with some other nation who's got armed to their teeth.. but its good to fight and die rather than sit and wait. right?)<BR/><BR/> if we are talking about wasting money.. Common!! we wasting money all day long with our politicos in the parliament..dhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-53473828967449592162007-05-07T22:08:00.000+05:302007-05-07T22:08:00.000+05:30Yes it is easier to maintain one type, so since we...Yes it is easier to maintain one type, so since we alread have Kfirs, which essentially are multirole fighters, its better to upgrade our C2's and C7's to C10 standard which will allow them to fly at night, bad weather and be used in an air superiority role. It would be cheaper to upgrade them than buy new planes, our pilots already know how to fly them, and our engineers know how to maintain them. It makes no senese to buy a more complicated fighter and begin from scratch. Given the Mig 29 is a generation ahead of the Kfir, but if we upgrade all of them to C7 or C10, they will be MORE than enough for our current requiremnt, unless the LTTE goes and buys some fast jets of their own. The Mig 29 was intended to combat the F-16 and to a lesser extent the F-15, I really cant see the LTTE getting their hands on such advanced jets? Can anyone else?Raptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09262229921489144485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-20233182003935351182007-05-07T19:17:00.000+05:302007-05-07T19:17:00.000+05:30Hmmm.. for me it looks like they are going to repl...Hmmm.. for me it looks like they are going to replace Kfirs with MIG 29s. cos its easy to maintain a Single aircraft Variant. What do you guys think? Besides this is a good opportunity to buy those MIGs cos Indians doesn't Like when we getting Sophisticated Military Hardware.. Remember what happened with Radar systems.. they gave us free Indra Radars, which is only 2D.. So why not this time?<BR/><BR/>just read this article carefully..<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/2ufrqodhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-16923251492369473142007-05-07T19:14:00.000+05:302007-05-07T19:14:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.dhinukshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966986664804968165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-64302582457799381212007-05-07T14:31:00.000+05:302007-05-07T14:31:00.000+05:30I agree its waste of money to buy planes worth bil...I agree its waste of money to buy planes worth billions of rupees to shoot down two prpeller powered aircrafts. But there can be hidden reasons like cut backs.<BR/><BR/>It is obvious some of you who write in this blog may have connections with the forces. People should not divulge anything that they get from inside sources as it can be harmful for the country.Bravohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800168946056742053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-84588939541034812432007-05-07T14:16:00.000+05:302007-05-07T14:16:00.000+05:30Guys not to be scepticle, but this reporting looks...Guys not to be scepticle, but this reporting looks very much like something that comes from tamilnet. Replace the SLAF with TAF and the place as pallali.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877388889244119062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-87498041164201062302007-05-07T13:04:00.000+05:302007-05-07T13:04:00.000+05:30Sri Lanka Air Force fighters pounded a pre identif...Sri Lanka Air Force fighters pounded a pre identified LTTE base at Ramanatpuram East of Iranamadu in north of Mullaittivu today morning , Monday the 07th of May. <BR/><BR/>SLAF supersonic fighter jets pounded on strategic LTTE base at Ramanatpuram East of Iranamadu at 07.25 am and the SLAF confirmed that the LTTE base was completely destroyed due to bombardment. <BR/><BR/>Air Force sources said a large complex of buildings including a fuel storage, large stock of arms, ammunition and explosives were completely destroyed due to the air raid conducted today morning. <BR/><BR/>The follow-through reports of the attack indicated that the flame lasted about hours after the attack and this base used for its recent training activities and the intelligence sources revealed that the target has been accurately identified through timely ground information received form the reliable sources. <BR/><BR/>More details will follow. . .<BR/>(defence net)hiruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408765441922376199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-37586519411828488652007-05-07T12:55:00.000+05:302007-05-07T12:55:00.000+05:30Hind Driver, I do not want to get into a political...Hind Driver, I do not want to get into a political discussion as this is not the forum for it. The matter of issue is the Mig 29s.<BR/>I had mentioned before that its going to take a few months before the mig29s come into action. <BR/><BR/>So far there is probing attacks (some can be considered diversionary) for a real assualt on the LTTE. The SLA is under pressure to keep losses to a minimum. However its this reason which prevents seziure of lands. The east was won because of Karuna's help. However from his blabbering on the LTTE planes, its looks like he has no idea of what goes on in vanni.<BR/><BR/>The war needs to be expedited soon. This will give the SLA an advantage. The longer it takes the greater the strain on the economy, the more possibility of LTTE air attacks and possible international pressure.<BR/><BR/>Even in muhumalai, if the army had kept pushing (yes there were losses) they would have eventually push the LTTE back. However their aim to gain teritory on a minimum loss stratergy may not be possible in the North. There is a need for both economic and military scarifices for the next few months to achieve this. <BR/><BR/>Regardless of peoples affliation, Mahinda should be fully supported. He has the direction to lead the country in a war that can be won.<BR/>Honestly I wish he would suspend the parliment (saving alot of money) declare war and push forward.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877388889244119062noreply@blogger.com