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The impact area of an MBRL salvo is elleptical, with the long axis in the direction of fire. Therefore a column would cut across the diametre of the impact area, and the majority of the rounds would impact around the column and not on it. To do damage to the column (and you're assuming the Tigers could get the exact range PERFECTLY with ONE salvo :)!) you'd need multiple MBRLs covering the length of the column, and even then the majority of the rockets would be wasted. Mortars or guns would do far more damage. Your awe of this weapon is clouding your mind."<BR/><BR/>That was just a quick example of the top of my mind. My point underlying main point was that if they fire a salvo of 122mm rockets into an area where there is a signifcantly dense number of troops or a military installation, then it is damaging. I can't stae it anymore clearly. BTW the LTTE most likly wouldn't be test firing a newly captured weapon weapon in actual combat. They would already have tried and tested it in their Wanni jungles to get them better experience in accuracy and range. <BR/><BR/>"COVERING a large area and HITTING the target are two different things. Do you understand that?"<BR/><BR/>In some cases it can be almost the same thing. The LTTE won't be firing a salvo into an area where there is not much worth being targeted, thats just wasteful. They could fire into an area for example where our troops have artillery guns and mortars in close proximity to each other. In that case the target is not just a single object(ie: artillery gun) confined to a small area, but a bunch of objects spread out over a sizable area. In cases like this fire coverage over a large area is useful. DO you understand that?<BR/><BR/>"Did it escape you that they failed?"<BR/><BR/>Nice cheap shot, Ofcourse they failed but only after a few countries supplied us with MBRLs in the last minute. They did have 40,000 of our troops on the ropes.<BR/><BR/>"Actually you did. Here are your exact words:<BR/>"I think if the LTTE managed to capture an army MBRL they will use it in their attempt to re-capture Jaffna. I think that the whole LTTE offensive into Jaffna city will be build around this powerful weapon." Utter rubbish."<BR/><BR/>I can't stop laughing at you. In THAT QUOTE you just quoted I clearly said IN THEIR ATTEMPT to re capture Jaffna. There is a reason I said in their attempt, because honestly I believe Jaffna won't fall into their hands, BUT they could give us a nasty surprise if they use a captured army MBRL effectively in their next attempt to capture Jaffna. Please read carefully.GoldenEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10097391147469779596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-18028339944662150922007-08-03T16:01:00.000+05:302007-08-03T16:01:00.000+05:30Thanks David and noltte=peaceThanks David and noltte=peaceSrilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-69932503975641008362007-08-03T11:45:00.000+05:302007-08-03T11:45:00.000+05:30Relax! LTTE isn't going to capture any MBRLs, so ...Relax! LTTE isn't going to capture any MBRLs, so you both can stop arguing.KBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646019998484404358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-68058828726634717712007-08-03T11:19:00.000+05:302007-08-03T11:19:00.000+05:30"Wrong again. If they aim and fire into a column o..."Wrong again. If they aim and fire into a column of troops" etc<BR/><BR/>GE, your lack of knowledge about military hardware is lettting you down. The impact area of an MBRL salvo is elleptical, with the long axis in the direction of fire. Therefore a column would cut across the diametre of the impact area, and the majority of the rounds would impact around the column and not on it. To do damage to the column (and you're assuming the Tigers could get the exact range PERFECTLY with ONE salvo :)!) you'd need multiple MBRLs covering the length of the column, and even then the majority of the rockets would be wasted. Mortars or guns would do far more damage. Your awe of this weapon is clouding your mind. <BR/><BR/>"Here I'll say it again since you probably won't get it the first time, ONE salvo of 40 122mm rockets can cover a large area with fire."<BR/><BR/>Repeating your mistake won't correct it, GE. COVERING a large area and HITTING the target are two different things. Do you understand that? Why do you think carpet bombing isn't practiced anymore? Come on, GE, read up a bit on ground warfare and educate yourself. You're arguing like a child.<BR/><BR/>"If I remember correctly, our troops had no real reply when they first used it the last time they wanted to capture Jaffna. "<BR/><BR/>Did it escape you that they failed?<BR/><BR/>"You are acting incredibly foolish. I never suggested that the LTTE could recapture Jaffna with a single MBRL."<BR/><BR/>Actually you did. Here are your exact words:<BR/> "I think if the LTTE managed to capture an army MBRL they will use it their attempt to re-capture Jaffna. I think that the whole LTTE offensive into Jaffna city will be build around this powerful weapon." Utter rubbish.<BR/><BR/>"In the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war rockets were used cunning to create fear and destruction and in normally secure Israel"<BR/><BR/>yes, you can cause terror & destruction with random fire into civilian areas but you cannot take a city by doing this. your point was that the LTTE would use an MBRL to try and capture Jaffna. Don't now start searching for other ways they can use it.<BR/><BR/>The reason the Israelis couldn't nail the Hizbollah rockets were because they were dismantled after firing and hidden in residential areas. They weren't speeding off with the IAF in pursuit.<BR/><BR/>"I Wouldn't put it past them to make good use of a captured 122mm MBRL."<BR/><BR/>Neither would I. But they haven't been able to put their own MBRLs to good use, and they will not be able to use a captured one in the waay you've suggested (as the focal point for an intended capture of Jaffna).<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry if you don't want the hard facts (about how MBRLs are used), but if you don't know the facts, you can't really argue.<BR/><BR/>"David is the LTTE trying to capture MBRL(assumed)just so that the army cant use it against them."<BR/><BR/>SL, the LTTE doesn't need to capture and MBRL to prevent its use, all they have to do is knock 'em out. The latter's easier than the former, obviously.<BR/><BR/>I won't discount the fact that the captured MBRL can be used against civilians (as Hizbollah does), but I think there are other less costly ways for the LTTE to do that. My argument with GE is that the MBRL isn't some wonder weapon, the possession of which ensures victory. Obviously it has its uses, but in conjuncture with other conventional weapons.<BR/><BR/>Most of the IAF losses were to ZSU-23-2s and 4s, not Katushkas.David Blackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17294360142245036352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-3240003989208823342007-08-03T04:54:00.000+05:302007-08-03T04:54:00.000+05:30kbsI think we should play it safe. No one knows if...kbs<BR/><BR/>I think we should play it safe. No one knows if that info really made it to the LTTE. Buts its always better to be safe than sorry if you ask me.<BR/><BR/>Jack<BR/><BR/>"I wonder if the experts they are quoting are some of the folks who ID'd it here LOL."<BR/><BR/>A real possibility.GoldenEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10097391147469779596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-71601008838368224762007-08-03T03:53:00.001+05:302007-08-03T03:53:00.001+05:30I wonder if the experts they are quoting are some ...I wonder if the experts they are quoting are some of the folks who ID'd it here LOL.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03009328772316666134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-6664843046732942212007-08-03T03:53:00.000+05:302007-08-03T03:53:00.000+05:30Hey guys BTW looks like MCNS retracted the thermob...Hey guys BTW looks like MCNS retracted the thermobaraic weapon statement:<BR/><BR/>"The weapon (see picture bellow) that was recovered from Verugal on 31st July 2007 is not a thermobaric weapon as reported earlier but a rocket launcher used to engage armoured vehicles and bunkers. Experts have identified the weapon as PF-89."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03009328772316666134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-65986307245957656892007-08-03T03:24:00.000+05:302007-08-03T03:24:00.000+05:30GE, so you fear that the information could have ma...GE, so you fear that the information could have made it to the LTTE?KBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646019998484404358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-50995377687675976642007-08-03T03:06:00.000+05:302007-08-03T03:06:00.000+05:30"DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna..."DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna peninsula. LTTE could do so much with that info....."<BR/><BR/>Well its unfortunate that this has happened. The only thing we can do now is to entirely change the way our defence network is setup in Jaffna peninsula. We can do this within a month if we step on the gas. In the future we must not let majors have files and DVDs/CDs that outline the entire military FDL formations in Jaffna.GoldenEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10097391147469779596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-735061980612198682007-08-03T02:57:00.000+05:302007-08-03T02:57:00.000+05:30Srilankan,Usually, the dogs belonging to Homeguard...Srilankan,<BR/><BR/>Usually, the dogs belonging to Homeguards detect LTTE cadres in most occasions. Else, it is vigilance for movement.<BR/><BR/>There have been many family dogs killed by terrorists for the same reason. <BR/><BR/>I can remember in one occasion, LTTE had thrown poisoned meat at dogs before hacking the families to death.NOLTTE=Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767248674450054730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-28122605984579168592007-08-03T02:16:00.000+05:302007-08-03T02:16:00.000+05:30Another stupid thing; Sayline for LTTE.http://www....Another stupid thing; Sayline for LTTE.<BR/>http://www.lankadeepa.lk/2007/08/03/front_news/06.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-58974697603828359732007-08-03T02:14:00.000+05:302007-08-03T02:14:00.000+05:30?....fellas .... do the mutts in Vanni still beam ...?....fellas .... do the mutts in Vanni still beam TV or did the Air force bomb the tower ? A bunch of Spec ops.trainers from Pearl Harbour plan to train Navy guys soon. Any mustard to that ?Rajaratasurferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15877701773284721637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-46181673524725819082007-08-03T01:58:00.001+05:302007-08-03T01:58:00.001+05:30Any estimates on the number of families that LTTE ...Any estimates on the number of families that LTTE can tap for thir new conscription? Many of the families under their control already have sent member(s) to LTTE, so we can't include those.<BR/><BR/>I have a feeling they are adding 10k people this year easily, which means their next serious Jaffna attack won't come for a while. In the meantime, we gotta prevent these corrupt people from giving them military secrets....KBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646019998484404358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-11621659827911138642007-08-03T01:58:00.000+05:302007-08-03T01:58:00.000+05:30DefenceNet:(when you have the time)-How do home gu...DefenceNet:(when you have the time)-How do home guard units detect LTTE cadres moving in the dark?Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-25755783430160059802007-08-03T01:31:00.000+05:302007-08-03T01:31:00.000+05:30"thankgod we detected it..otherwise that dead cool..."thankgod we detected it..otherwise that dead coolie balasinghams prediction of 10,000 body bags would have come true sooner than later."<BR/><BR/>So you still expect those deaths to happen?KBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646019998484404358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-19975933648033248562007-08-03T01:12:00.000+05:302007-08-03T01:12:00.000+05:30Hey DefenceNet Sarath fonseka has said to the diva...Hey DefenceNet <BR/><BR/>Sarath fonseka has said to the divaina news paper that army has done a limited operation in vanni yesterday and killed more than 20 terras .. where is it and what hppn?<BR/><BR/>http://www.divaina.com/2007/08/03/news39.htmlHasalakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04884664869849172523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-41960945039125814962007-08-03T00:29:00.000+05:302007-08-03T00:29:00.000+05:30ccc-are there any tamil street names in colombo?ccc-are there any tamil street names in colombo?Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-17384050494718538202007-08-03T00:23:00.000+05:302007-08-03T00:23:00.000+05:30tamilnut reported changing a tamil street name int...tamilnut reported changing a tamil street name into sinhala and placing a buddha statue in recently captured areas in east. right or wrong we should not do these kind of things. we won't gain any thing by these sort of things at this time and this is giving fuel to tamil racism which is the foundation of current problem. those sinhala budhist patriots should wait at least wanni is cleared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-86707459411127752222007-08-03T00:21:00.000+05:302007-08-03T00:21:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-88459923808900663882007-08-02T23:59:00.000+05:302007-08-02T23:59:00.000+05:30thankgod we detected it..otherwise that dead cooli...thankgod we detected it..otherwise that dead coolie balasinghams prediction of 10,000 body bags would have come true sooner than later.Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-19504986705966660702007-08-02T23:48:00.000+05:302007-08-02T23:48:00.000+05:30"DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna..."DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna peninsula. LTTE could do so much with that info..... "<BR/><BR/>Yes this is interesting, why does a Major have access to so much info? Or was he gathering it himself?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03009328772316666134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-41326679878011965792007-08-02T22:44:00.000+05:302007-08-02T22:44:00.000+05:30Thanks DefenceNetThanks DefenceNetSrilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-3900439502410110052007-08-02T22:36:00.000+05:302007-08-02T22:36:00.000+05:30Jack your right..the info should not have been giv...Jack your right..the info should not have been given to the papers.This is probably why these LTTE coolies have been so successful in the past.It takes a special kind of criminal to betray the lives of his friends/colleagues and place the lives of 1000' of innocent people in jeopardy.Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9079007316930841006.post-87084835538165161562007-08-02T22:06:00.000+05:302007-08-02T22:06:00.000+05:30DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna...DAMN. A full military breakdown of SLDF in Jaffna peninsula. LTTE could do so much with that info.....KBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646019998484404358noreply@blogger.com