Light aircraft belonging to Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam dropped at least 3 bombs on Sri Lanka Army forward defence lines in the Weli Oya sector. As per our information (Still unverified) no damages have been caused by the bombing.
Update: One soldier has been injured by the bombing. LTTE seems to have targeted the 22-3 brigade headquarters and a gun position where army's Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers were stationed. None of the targets were hit.
Tiger aircraft managed to escaped unharmed raising renewed doubts on SLAF's interceptor capability. The attack, even if it did not cause any damage, is bound score major propaganda points among the Eelam Diaspora.
Weli Oya region saw increased activity yesterday (26th) with tigers shelling an SLA base and the nearby village in the morning while SLAF fighters bombed LTTE positions north of Weli Oya in the evening. This is in addition to the ground operations that are continuously being conducted in the area by the army's 59th division. 5 LTTE bodies recovered from a previous mission in the Weli Oya sector were handed over to the ICRC yesterday (26th).
DN
ReplyDeleteany info on how many LTTE planes came
for the attack ?
lkdood it looks like two came. Not 100% sure as it is still 4AM in SL.
ReplyDeletethank you for the quick update
ReplyDeleteI think they just wanted to show that they have capability to do that.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDelete..Military spokesman Udaya Nanayakkara said two light aircraft of the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) dropped three bombs at the Forward Defense Line of government troops in Welioya
Xinhua
a top security source said
ReplyDelete"They dropped three bombs at two locations and flew back," the source said. "The damage caused is insignificant, but the attack is symbolic. It shows they have coordinates of military installations."
- AFP
DefenceNet,
ReplyDeleteat the altitude they fly couldn't random rifle fire affect the planes even though it is dark..
ReplyDeleteradio australia report
Tamil Tiger rebels using light aircraft bombed two military targets in northeastern Sri Lanka early Sunday
Military sources say at least one soldier was wounded when the rebels hit two targets in the Weli Oya region....
The damage caused is insignificant, but the attack is symbolic and shows that the rebels have coordinates of military installations
Sources say the rebel aircraft managed to withdraw unchallenged despite new anti-aircraft defences set up by the military in the island's northern and eastern regions.
Things to consider,
ReplyDelete1. The position of the Weli Oya front line: Wavuniya Mulathivu border.
2. The position the aircrafts departed: Most probably somewhere in Mulathivu.
3: Total flying time: Less than half an hour.
"Apparently the target was a arms depot and artillery launch pad used by GOSL terrorists. Both had been flattened in the bombing raid by the LTTE."
ReplyDeleteBe objective once for a change. This is not the place for your day dreams.
Defencenet,
According to your policy you are supposed to remove lies.
hemantha said...
ReplyDelete"Apparently the target was a arms depot and artillery launch pad used by GOSL terrorists. Both had been flattened in the bombing raid by the LTTE."
Be objective once for a change. This is not the place for your day dreams.
Defencenet,
According to your policy you are supposed to remove lies.
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maybe LTTE was 'trying' to target arms depot and artillery launch pad
where were the anti-aircraft guns ??
acoording to eelaam sources one target was an arms depot but the other one should be corrected as a bus depot
ReplyDeletetikiri,
ReplyDeletefrom what i hear one strategic target was a bus depot..the other was a barbers saloon.This barber was causing them too much competition.
"maybe LTTE was 'trying' to target arms depot and artillery launch pad"
ReplyDeleteWhy dream? Can't wait few hours until some information comes out?
"where were the anti-aircraft guns ??"
Our MI-24s attacked LTTE bunkers few times so far. But no AA fire. Does that mean they don't have AA guns. I will let you figure out the answer.
My point is, let’s get some facts before jumping the gun.
Tikira,
ReplyDeleteSorry mate. Couldn't help.
Hemanthe sorry kiyala madhi,mame me balagene hitiye umbala upulte,shaymte respa kerenawa madhi
ReplyDeleteTranslation of the previos comment
ReplyDeleteUpul anna,i told hemantha that they should respect you and shaym anna,
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ReplyDeleteupul anna wanakkam, anna you are absolutely right they all are bloody key board warriors
ReplyDeleteAnna,which elephant, green one or black one
ReplyDeleteUpul(Revy),
ReplyDeleteGet lost, please. I don't have time for your crap.(Sorry, Tikira)
According to tamilnet LTTE is still not talking about the air attack.
"They dropped three bombs at two locations and flew back," the source said. "The damage caused is insignificant, but the attack is symbolic. It shows they have coordinates of military installations."
ReplyDeleteThis means LTTE has attacked military installations.
MoD has updated the news item but apart from the time (1:45 am) no new info.
when we stop night time air raids tigers thrive.
where is ananda sagari now??
if the prez. had instructed the SLAF (according to the pleading by anada sangari) to abandon all SLAF bombings (and flyings) at night, it is a display of utter stupidity.
DefenceNet,
ReplyDeleteIs 61st ready to be deployed?
Moshe Dayan,
ReplyDelete"if the prez. had instructed the SLAF to abandon all SLAF bombings (and flyings) at night, it is a display of utter stupidity."
Was any such thing reported somewhere? I don't remember seeing any.
We are not declaring elephants as a terrorist group even though they kill many civilians because they are animals.
ReplyDeleteAnd LTTE kills many many civilians. But we haven’t declared it as a terrorist group either. The reason is pretty clear.
Ok guys. I need to leave. Don't assume something and base your argument upon that. Wait for the facts. Then build the argument. (My two cents)
ReplyDeleteupul,
ReplyDeleteYou write like Revy, walk like Revy, talk like Revy, and look like Revy, I mean a buffoon. Therefore, you are Revy by acting buffoon.
Ohh yeahh another successful night mission carried by the VANODI(Air tigers)....boom boom boom boom
ReplyDeleteIkbal Athas says that the LTTE have used two different kind of explosives which are locally made and they named it as SAMATHANAM and RAGAVAN ...
ReplyDeleteMan, this place is bombarded by bloody LTTE terrorists. One looser uses the name 'Upul', another 'tikira' and the other 'Shyaam'.
ReplyDeleteWith those kites like planes you can't do much. So have some fun assuming those terrirsts falttened some 'bus depot'. BTW, you mnust be enjoying the fact terrorists could kill many innocents in the bus bomb explosion. So why bother to make false stories, talk about the facts; the bus bomb...
BTW, SLA haven't done there job properly. Those kites should be brought down or the SLAF commander should resign...
Defencenet,
ReplyDeleteWhere's our 3D radar system, is it still not installed or was it switched off again? Or is it only for Colombo area....
Looks like SLAF will have to constantly patrol the skies, at least with the MI-24's that have been fitted with AAM's. If they come and go again the whole world will be laughing at us.
And take a look at this(from defence.lk):
"SLAF air defence network radars detected 2 light aircraft of LTTE which were airborne and heading towards Welioya. In accordance with standard operating procedures, SLAF interceptor aircraft were made airborne in the direction of the intruding enemy craft. However, enroute to the area it was observed that the LTTE air craft were fleeing and heading back"
What the hell? So didn't our jets pursue them? And when the aircraft were detected on the radar, how come missiles were not activated? Or don't they have missiles.... maybe they are safely locked up in our armouries, not in their launchers.
ranilb5,
Tikira is just having some fun with our LTTE supporters.
The only thing the "Sun Goat" achieved by letting fly his kites was an alarmed India.
ReplyDeleteThese kites are just a propaganda tool. Nothing has achived so far by these kites except killing a few airmen and soldires.
He is thinking he could project picture to diaspora that he has turned the table on the ground situation in militarary as there was a little higher casulaity on miliatry in the Muhamali battle.
MF in the West is elated as has been doing last 35 years.Poor souls, still waiting until their great "Sun Goat" gives them the Eealm. They are still waiting to see that Trincomalee becoming their dream capital of the Eelam.
Guys understand the LTTE stratergy.
ReplyDeleteIn Welioya Front, SLDF was using SLAF to attack LTTE positions. MI24 and other type od air craft were in use frequently.
Because of that, ground troops will not expect or try to shoot any air craft operating in the area.
LTTE has used the opertunity to just drop two COW DUNG to show their colors.
These are slow and low flying objects, and Small AA gun mounted on a CAB is enough to put it down.
There should be seperate AA-CAB regiment to totally vigilant on LTTE flying shits.
One Mig money is enough to create 100 CAB units with AA guns and Night vision Googles.
Update: Only one soldier has been injured by the bombing. LTTE seems to have targeted the 22-3 brigade headquarters and a gun position where army's Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers were stationed. None of the targets were hit.
ReplyDeleteWhat made them attack Weli-Oya is that LTTE knows that the chance of a getaway will be high and still score propaganda points. had the planes ventured into Colombo the result may just have been different.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the planes didnt to jack whack, Eelamists all over the world are celebrating. In that sense the raid is a victory for them (to be honest that may have been the main objective rather than damages to SLA).
Guys,
ReplyDeleteThese aircrafts of TAF will never be able to do any significant damage unless they are on a 'Kamakazi' mission.
Only purpose of taking them airborne is to achieve a propaganda victory is and they got it; just look at the news headlines of BBC, Al-jazeera, Radio Australia etc.
Poor coordination between the SLA and SLAF could bring in more humiliation, not necessarily material damage.
At the same time, the forces must carry on the operation as planned without being diverted from these tactics.
There is a world of pundits who want to see these operations fail and media organizations are hungry without big news.
Not to lose the focus is the need of the hour.
Guys did you check the Google Earth Cordination, which were posted sevral days back.
ReplyDeleteThat is a Runway above the Vedithalathiv ( May be a fake one and buildings in the starting poing can be a school/Children opernage or a church).
Defencenet,
ReplyDeleteDon't we have air defences in that area? Were they too low for SAM's to hit them or something like that?
andare,
ReplyDeleteWhat are the coordinates?
Guys,
ReplyDeleteBrutes may have used them with laughable explosives, as their use-by-date is getting closer and closer.
In the event of Mullathive being fallen, where are they going to fly them?
More 'Kamakazi' missions may be in the offing!
Good article to read.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rivira.lk/2008/04/27/ranabima.htm
(Use internet explorer)
Hey Defencenet,
I this article, it says SLAF destroyed 2 artillery guns during mahamlai fight.
Is this true?
DefenceNet,
ReplyDeleteThis is very serious even if you ignore the pointless "diaspora" victory.These guys wanted to take out the MBRL!!.How did they know the close to exact location of the MBRL?.
According to defencewire..due to continuous LTTE artillary fire 4 soldiers were KIA and 45 injured on the welioya front yesterday.
From defence.lk
ReplyDelete"During the wee hours the SLAF air defence network radars detected 2 light aircraft of LTTE which were airborne and heading towards Welioya. In accordance with standard operating procedures, SLAF interceptor aircraft were made airborne in the direction of the intruding enemy craft. However, enroute to the area it was observed that the LTTE air craft were fleeing and heading back", air force sources were quoted as saying in a press release issued.
The problem is there are no air force bases with interceptor aircraft near enough to the FDLs
qurious,
ReplyDeleteThats exactly the point bro.Your spot on.If the T.EELAM.AF can get in and out of FDL's eventually there will come a time when they will be used as suicide craft.
If the ACraft were fleeing why were they not shot down...
ReplyDeleteDefenceNet,
ReplyDeleteWhen you have the time..why is the welioya front so important for the LTTE i wonder..
Hello!
ReplyDeleteYou want to know about CAS?
"If the ACraft were fleeing why were they not shot down..."
ReplyDeleteWhen using SAM's you need some time to get the missile 'locked on' to the target. You can't just point it at the target and fire like a gun. So I guess the plane disappears before that could be done.... I mean, the plane just appears over the trees, you aim the launcher at it, and before you can do anything else, it disappears on the other side. Machines guns and assault rifles probably would have been used by the troops, but even with a mounted machine gun, it will be hard to hit because of the same reason (by the time you're ready, it's gone - and the time available is very little as the plane is flying very low, you'll see it for a very small time)
I guess the terrain is disadvantageous too for the ground based AA units, because of the trees. In the northern front it would have been easier probably (the morons should have gone there, not to weli oya)
As for the interceptors, probably they were nowhere near the area by the time the enemy aircraft went back.
Andare,
ReplyDeleteIs this all an attempt to make the govt panic and place aircraft closer to welioya front for another AABase job..i wonder..these buffoons think we are idiots who need GOD IC to think for us.
Chamal,
ReplyDeleteMany thanks.There is no need to waste a missile on these tin cans.couldn't the pilot have used his guns(cannon)..even random fire may have at least damaged them.
Yesterday, so many people were talking about "CAS".
ReplyDeleteI am not a military man, so I got very confused.
I called up a friend of a friend of a friend in killinochhci and asked: "Anna, so many military experts are talking about something called 'CAS.
I am very confused".
To that he replied: "Thambi, don't be so confused.
Wait a few hours and you will find out what 'CAS' is."
Peter,
ReplyDeleteThe LTTE aircrafts carried out a 'bombing raid' (if it can be called a bombing raid, that is) CAS is something that is done in support of your ground troops, targeting enemies or enemy positions directly threatening their advance/retreat. There was no LTTE ground troop movement that was supported by this attack. It was done targeting the brigade HQ of 22-3 and an MBRL (as given in this article) although your TAF aces managed to miss both targets.
I think TAF managed to injure a few "cattle"; if thats what you call them!
ReplyDeleteA Sinhalese friend said to me that they won, because the "TAF fled back". I think he was expecting the planes to hover over his head for the rest of his life.
In other news;
"Pride of the nation" Mihin Lanka is due to shutdown at the end of this month.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/080427/News/news007.html
takaran airforce successfully completed their mission.poor srilankans
ReplyDeleteFlying tin cans…. Slippers and slippers…. Improvised weapons… captured weapons….. locally manufactured mortars….. FACs fitted with outboard motors…..huh….I wonder where has all those dollars have gone. Is it true that most of the extorted money stays with the collector?
ReplyDeleteWhat I tell all my friends is that there is only one man who has bettered our ponsy and that is sungoat. On the other hand if sungoat was a corporate exec he would have ousted by now for not delivering results and I know why it didn’t happened. A change like that wouldn’t have made any difference….hmmmmmm….
Any…way…for SL side we have never been that brute and we have never been resolute in thrashing the MFs ….and still we have survived for 30 long years…..
Now with we been so resolute, it is time to create many many mahaveers and send MF sungoat to hell.
For me….our soldiers are my heros… my supper stars...
Be patriots…. (for those who doesn’t believe they belong in SL I’m sorry guys, U’ll never get a place to call it yours)…. SL is for all of us…
Cheers.
...sorry guys... I need to say one more thing....
ReplyDeleteI beleive Elam War 4 as this round is/was called....supposed to be on the Sea....and what the hell we are doing on land..on muhamalai...and welioya and Mannar....
Guys..get back to sea.... get ready for the sea batttles... the mother/father of all battles...
...but there is one small hiccup...
Now..now...where is the sea tigers....?
Be patriots…. (for those who doesn’t believe they belong in SL I’m sorry guys, U’ll never get a place to call it yours)…. SL is for all of us…
Cheers.
hemantha,
ReplyDeleteno. nowhere it as reported that the prez. had favourably responded to ananda sangari's plea not to carryout night raids.
but after his plea no night raids were carried out by the SLAF so far.
this is a fact. it is also a fact that the prez. generally listens to AS.
i put the two together with an 'if'.
i have a nasty feeling that bloody tigers will test their shitt luck tonight as well.
we should also be extra vigilent on Katu. airbase and Hingurakgoda AB. SLAF has caused the tigers enough headaches by attacking their VIPs, etc. And they surely know the potential of the SLAF.
the iranian president arrives tommorrow. what are the chances of fking tigers attacking him to score big among weastern govt.s?
in that event i recon the US govt. may consider lifting the ban!!! a way out of terrorism THROUGH TERRORISM ITSELF. it can also destroy a main source of foreign aid to SL.
just thinking aloud. these would become 'obvious' after an attack though.
It seems that tiger aircrafts are trying to distroy MBRL again...
ReplyDeleteAnother unsuccesful mission..
Our fighters are too advance to hit LTTE targets i think we need something with low technology.. Instead I think the best thing is to strenghten the MI-24 squad so we can use them to intercept in flight.. or else rather than buying mig29s we can get few MI-35s which is superior than Mi24 and many capabilites...
And also it's time to locate few more radars to strenghten the air defence system too.. I think it's specially necessary to locate them around the northern part of the sri lanka... may be few around stragetically important FDLs... WE can give them the automatic firing capability as well.. Since this radars are installed on Mobile platforms we can easily move them away under a artillary fire... Currently only 70% of the country is covered by the Air defence system... Covering rest of the country is very important too.. Otherwise we're never going to find the LTTE's correct landing strips or hangers or any of thier planes...
DefenceNet said (in main story): "SLAF fighters bombed LTTE positions north of Weli Oya in the evening. This is in addition to the ground operations that are continuously being conducted in the area by the army's 59th division."
ReplyDeleteChamal said (in comments section): "CAS is something that is done in support of your ground troops, targeting enemies or enemy positions directly threatening their advance/retreat. There was no LTTE ground troop movement that was supported by this attack."
This shows that Chamal dives straight into comments without reading the main story This I believe is a great insult to the omen service rendered by DN.
Sajith said: "Our fighters are too advance to hit LTTE targets"
Thanks Sajith! It is one of the funniest quotes I have read in a while.
Moshe,
ReplyDelete"i have a nasty feeling that bloody tigers will test their shitt luck tonight as well."
From now on, for about two weeks our troops will be on full alert. After that our people are likely to forget it as everything else. So my guess is the Tigers will wait for some time before attacking again. It's the job of our commanders to stop anything like this happening again and keep the troops ready at all times.
Sajith,
Some of our Hinds are capable of intercepting now. They have been equipped with radars, AAM's etc. We also have MI-35's. But to get effective results from them, we need to constantly carry out patrols with them along the lines or just behind the lines (our lines) at least. Otherwise by the time they take off and reach the area, LTTE aircraft would have returned to their base.
Peter anna,wanakkam,how come u find many funny quotes in a single day,pls tell me
ReplyDeleteThese LTTE diehards in the forum are waisting their time.
ReplyDeleteGuys do not reply to the comments made by these loonies..
I love this game.
For god's sake peter, what are you talking about? it says "This is in addition to the ground operations that are continuously being conducted in the area by the army's 59th division"
ReplyDeleteThere was no ground troops movement of the LTTE at the time and nor were they defending against an army assault. It just says 59th is conducting operations in the area. CAS means providing air strikes in assistance to your own ground troops, understand? Go and read this now at least and learn: CAS
peter obviously you need to read more. Where in the article does it say army and the LTTE were locked in a firefight at the time planes bombed?
ReplyDeleteIn other words, CAS are air strikes supporting ground troops that are in battle (or being attacked) RIGHT NOW. Not in support of an offensive that happened yesterday or going to happen next week.
ReplyDeleteOi chamal, the CAS peter anna talking about is a different CAS,anna am i right,is it a food, a new illness or is it a new credit card(you know easy matte)?
ReplyDeletechamal you sinhalease talk without reading properly,shame on u
Defencenet/guys
ReplyDeleteOOPS!!! the piyambana koti did it again..they bombed off-target for sure,they evaded our 3d-radars,our F-7 interceptors,they keep on playin these games with us-will they ever ever get caught?? i highly doubt it,oh baby,baby..chorus
(apologies to britney spears fans)
what difference will the mig-29's make?..nil,nada,zip!!! (except,of course to benefit private off-shore bankers in cayman/channel islands and of course the swiss!! heheh
Defencenet are u saying peter anna cant read,he can i know for a fact,by the way u said military captured madu,YOU LIER......
ReplyDeleteMaybe Close Ass Support
ReplyDeletetikira,
ReplyDeleteAhhh.... Eelam CAS eh?
RENEGADE, appology accpted(i'm a britney spears fan),what did they(piyabane koti)did to you,any thing bad,dont be shy u can tell me,i'll tell them not to do it again(i know many of them)
ReplyDeleteDefenceNet said (in main story): "SLAF fighters bombed LTTE positions north of Weli Oya in the evening. This is in addition to the ground operations that are continuously being conducted in the area by the army's 59th division."
ReplyDeleteIs this not CAS?
LOL!
DefenceNet said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe Close Ass Support
Oops! Posted my last comment without reading DefenceNet's response. Now I know what it was.
I thought TAF is already destroyed. Luckily they are still there. We have our game on. I don’t need a premature end to the fight in sky....
ReplyDeleteAAA BOSS anna wannakam, anna you r right, stupid government spending billions of dollars, instead they would have spend half the amount in euros(any one know the exchange rate)
ReplyDeleteDefenceNet ;
ReplyDeleteSome news says the there was a fight between the SLA and LTTE before or after the Air raid by the LTTE...
Every time the SLA say that the LTTE couldn't make anything major but they don't allow the media to visit the place why is that...? Even in Katunayake they didn't allow the SLMM(those period SLMM was acting in srilanka)or any media to see the place but messages leaked; One bomb have dropped middle of the place where the gun ships were been...
What happened in Muhamalai battle ...SLA said only 15 were KIA and another 75 wounded but what happened actually....? i don't wanna remind you the actual figures ... Any picture of the todays air-raid by the Vanodikal..
I swear the air-raid definitely affect the SLA psychologically....
SLAf fighter jets take only 10min to reach the jaffna .. i don't know why they couldn't bring down the LTTE's light aircrafts . Lols ..they noticed 2 aircrafts were flying to the Manalaru region so SLAF jets can easily reach the target or the Gunships(Mi 24 And Mi35) where they were station in Anuradhapura or Vavuniya can be reach the target or atleast they can destroy them when the LTTE crafts landing or after landing ...
ReplyDeleteIt show the SLAF still don't have the capabilities to fight with the TAF ... shame on you SLAF
I think this what happened ..when they saw the LTTE aircrafts the commander told the pilots destroy the enemy and SLAF also air borned and went to the Galleand returned base after the LTTE planes were left the place ......
Zlin 143 'pilots' were probably informed by spotters in Katunayaka when interceptors took off...clock starts ticking down to interception and death... they dropped their load and returned to the strip and the lorries from which they're transferred from bunker to strip. Probably a dummy run to test the ADS, their own adjustments to the bomb rack and to embarrass the SLAF (always good to replenish the coffers this last one).
ReplyDeleteIf they truly wanted to test the SLAF response they would have launched more Zlins to target multiple locations simultaneously (which would have endangered some of their pilots). Their problem is probably the same as the SLAFs - not enough pilots trained for night time operations and lack of assets.
I get the feeling these foreign trained Zlin 'pilots' will never turn Black on us. They're more likely to take a Black tiger up with them and drop 'em off with a parachute... size of load is limited to capacity, so unlikely to be as devastating as AAB attack but then again.. there's a reason why SLAF haven't been releasing quality tape of their missions except on a ad hoc basis.
This is what I think on this air raid. Since the TAF didn't achieve most of its objectives, it is easy to call this a psy-ops mission. If TAF managed to hit an armory or kill some of our senior officers, this "psy-ops" mission could have easily become "a devastating strategic precision airstrike".
ReplyDeleteIn other words, the primary mission was to make a devastating air strike and the secondary mission was psy-ops. The psy-ops mission is pretty much complete as soon as the planes were airborne.
Given that it did not turn out to be a devastating airstrike, and it fizzled, the LTTE would still want to make as much publicity out of it (highlighting the secondary mission). And ST-disciple (in DW) has pointed out exactly what LTTE would now have wanted out of this. But now, see the cunning ploy, they don't mention the primary mission at all. Psy-ops is now made out to be the primary mission.
Rayappu Joseph wants a 'peace zone' in Madhu to bring back the statue of our lady of madhu:
ReplyDeletetamilnet
Why does he need a special 'peace zone' when the FDL's are now nowhere near the church?
And take a look at this:
"A senior Tamil academic of Catholic background from Mannaar, told TamilNet that the Catholics in Mannaar were hurt when photos appeared in Colombo media depicting armed SLA soldiers in military uniforms emerging from the Shrine.
He said that the act of the SLA, and the high-handed manner in which the Commander of SLA has "instructed" the Church to bring back 'Our Lady of Madu', displayed the cultural insensitiveness of the military that had a record of desecrating holy places."
I guess it's ok for the LTTE to camp inside the church with bunkers and gun emplacements and all, but when a SLA soldier carries his personal weapon with him inside the church for clearing operations that becomes an act that should be condemned.
And also:
"Elaborating the Bishop's concerns, the academic who did not wished to be named, added that there were serious environmental concerns. The SLA has a record of clearing valuable trees in the name of what they label as national security"
WTF? I wouldn't be surprised if this unnamed academic is our glorious bishop himself.
Defencenet,
ReplyDeleteI'd like to repeat srilankan's question again:
"At the altitude they fly, couldn't random rifle fire affect the planes? Even though it is dark."
Thanks
chamal,
ReplyDeleteThat's a tamilnet article mate, it's all propaganda, just like certain gosl media that puts out propaganda. Don't worry about that much.
Communist Party of India (CPI) National Secretary D Raja urged the Indian Government to intervene in Sri Lanka's prolonged ethnic strife in view of the escalation of human rights abuses in the island nation. "Finding a solution to the ethnic crisis alone can bring about a solution to the problems of Tamil Nadu fishermen," he said. Recalling that the state Government of Tamil Nadu had protested when India ceded Kadchaththeevu to Sri Lanka in 1974, he urged upon the Indian Government to renegotiate the Kadchaththeevu Accord and facilitate Tamil Nadu fisherment to catch fish without any hindrance whatsoever.
ReplyDeletechamal,
ReplyDeletecheck below cordinate in google earth
9° 4.951'N
80° 4.589'E
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ReplyDelete//Only one soldier has been injured by the bombing.//
ReplyDeleteshould be "One soldier has been injured by the bombing."
shouldn't we notuse the word "only" when it come to soldirs?
Enough is enough!
ReplyDeleteAir force chief MUST go.
- He is unable to defend his own bases (AAB, KAB)
- He is unable to defend other military installations against TAF (e.g. MBRL positions, 22-3 HQ)
- He is unable to defend economic locations in the country against TAF (e.g. Kolonnawa)
- He is unable to provide CAS to our troops (e.g. Muhumale)
How many times has he got to fail before he has to go? Army and navy chiefs are good, we need an air chief to match them.
Intel
We spend millions to acquire targets and have drones etc etc and if air force chief has his way, we’ll probably spend millions more on target acquisition. TAF, however, gets targets without having all these sophisticated equipment. What’s going on here?
Accuracy
Once they acquire targets, they are able to hit them with accuracy, anywhere in SL (e.g. A’pura, Colombo, Jaffna, Weli Oya etc.). It’s true that they haven’t caused much damage, but if they had slightly better equipment, these raids would have been devastating. Now imagine what they would do to us if they had the equipment we have...
CAS
Guys, don’t argue over a technicality. The point is that they targeted 22-3 HQ and MBRL. Just image if they had hit our MBRL. Would that not have helped tigers either defend better or go on the offensive? The point is that SLAF was incompetent and let tigers get too close to us, yet again!
Low flying, low tech aircraft
Come one gugs, wake up! When they first attacked, it was because we didn’t have radar. Then it was because we didn’t have interceptor jets. Now what?
What’s the point in spending millions of USD if we can’t protect our FDL and our troops from TAF? You guys say they bombed close to Mullaitivu and that we didn’t have enough time. The point is that they managed to stay airborne to at least to have a go at their objective. We were unable to intercept them. Did they spend 75 million USD just to protect Colombo? Did they not think of protecting troops in FDL’s?
If TAF is so hard to shoot down because they are low tech, why are we going for high tech solutions? Could we not have bought a fleet of ZLins ourselves?
What you guys are offering are just excuses. The point is that we have the equipment to destroy TAF, SLAF boss is just too incompetent to put the equipment to effective use.
Next time they will attack Colombo and get away with it and we will have another excuse lilke "sorry, pilots for MIG 29’s were sleep at the time. We challenge them to attack us when we are awake if they dare". Come on.....
SLAF is doing quite a bit, but for the amount of money we spend on them, they are not doing enough.
Time for air chief to go.
Pina
These kites are just a propaganda tool. Nothing has achived so far by these kites except killing a few airmen and soldires. – Come pina, how can you say nothing achieved if they managed to kill at least one of our troops? How many people do they have to kill before they "achieve" something? This is the attitude that is costing us dear.
Andare
Because of that, ground troops will not expect or try to shoot any air craft operating in the area.
LTTE has used the opertunity to just drop two COW DUNG to show their colors.
These are slow and low flying objects, and Small AA gun mounted on a CAB is enough to put it down. – Just another excuse. Don’t come up with these as they are laughable. Our troops should know where and when our air craft are providing CAS. If they rely on eye-sight to identify aircraft, then that’s sheer stupidity. Also, if this is the way we fight, then god help us. The point is that they’ve carried 5 raids and we haven’t even managed to damage a single aircraft let alone down one of them!
Qrious
Poor coordination between the SLA and SLAF could bring in more humiliation, not necessarily material damage. – You are only 50% correct bro. What if they managed to actually drop "cow dung " on a MBRL or a troop concentration next time?
SriLankan
This is very serious even if you ignore the pointless "diaspora" victory.These guys wanted to take out the MBRL!!.How did they know the close to exact location of the MBRL?. – Spot on man. Not only they knew the targets, they managed to bomb them and get away. Heads should roll now. We should be ruthless in dealing with failures. Yes, our troops are heroic, but some of the top ranking ones are just stupid. We should not be prepared to excuse each and every blunder just because they are herioc. That helps nobody, it won't help us or our troops. Instead of that attitude, we should constructively criticise them, then then have a chance to improve!
Firerain
The problem is there are no air force bases with interceptor aircraft near enough to the FDLs – I respect your comments as you seem to think logically. But do we really need bases close to FDL? Don’t we have jets that can reach Jaffna within a matter of minutes?
If we build bases closed to FDL, then it makes it easier for TAF to bomb us too. It’ll be like "oh, the base was close to their air strip, they managed to get airborne, drop bombs and land within 5 minutes, we didn’t have time to react".
The bottom line is that SLAF must deliver more, be it CAS, night raids, precision strikes or intercepting, they are just not pulling their weight.
ARMY R&D should give a try to create mobile bunkers, which can provide basic protection for motar and Arty attack and should be able to get cover for small arm fires as well.
ReplyDeleteCan be hand towing or engine driven. If we have such things, ARMY can move in to LTTE territory everyday for some meters/kilo meters.
This is a temporary solution to gain areas with low casuality and once a area is captured, normal bunker building can be done.
when you look at all these things, such as muhamlai debacle, inability of SLAF to silence rudimentary air crafts with million dollar fighter jets, one thing is clear.
ReplyDeletethat is , there is serious lack of common sense in our defence chiefs.
Woudn't you agree my friends. The reason we cant defeat this MF is they use common sense. Not expensive gadgets.
SL is the one main suppiler of pure silica to the world. Tiles made up of silica is a excelent thermal insulator.
ReplyDeleteCant we use Silica tiles to coverup MID tanks, so that it can withstand the heat generated by the RPG.
These tiles are used in space-crafts to protect from heat.
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ReplyDeleteParakrama,
ReplyDelete"But do we really need bases close to FDL?"
"If we build bases closed to FDL, then it makes it easier for TAF to bomb us too."
Yes, exactly. The only sure way of engaging these aircraft are carrying out patrols by our interceptors. If at least two aircraft are patrolling parallel to the lines at all times, the chances of at least one of them being able to get to the target in time is pretty high. Even if they had already acquired their target, at least we can stop them from returning home safely and laughing at us. The reason we are currently not doing something like this is because of the high cost I guess, but now we have to decide between the cost and the safety of our people. The only method I can think of apart from this is installing some high quality 3D radar systems controlling our SAM's, but always air to air is better than ground to air.
Having supersonic aircraft are no use to us if it takes half an hour to get them ready to fly. To make use of them, they must be in the air (or at least prepared to get in the air at a moment's notice).
Normal ground based defenses like machine guns and MANPADS are not going to be very effective I think, because of the cover provided by trees to a low flying aircraft. It will only be visible to someone on the ground for a very short time. I think that's why they have chosen the Weli Oya area instead of the North (which is more important to them) because in the Northern FDL's, the land is pretty much empty and the planes would be visible for longer time and distance.
Parakrama,
ReplyDeleteThanks bro.I was thinking about the possibility of a mole..who is giving away locations of our weapons(MBRL)not troops..just weapons..because this is what will stop EELAM (infinity+2)wave.The LTTE are hell bent on making this war economically unfeasible for us.
chamal,
ReplyDeleteYour explanation makes sense. I agree with you that it is cost prohibitive to patrol the lines all the time. However, I think we should concentrate on destroying TAF on the ground. How hard is it to find their location and drop a few bunker busters? I think SLAF need to be pro-active in this area. They need to figure out a way to get the location of those planes without spending millions.
They should at least have a rough idea of where the took off from and landed. Once we know that, then it reduces the target area considerably as tigers are not able to move their aircraft a long way away from the take off/landing area due to logistics. We then need to keep that area under surveillance. UAV's should be able to notice the bunkers they hide aircraft in as they should have large entry/exit points as they need to move aircraft in and out quickly. We should then be able to drop a few bunker busters.
It may be cost prohibitive to have jets patrol all the time. However, with a bit of common sense and with the help of UAV's, we should have been able to neutralise this threat a long time ago.
Purchase of MiG 29's was overkill if the sole purpose was to intercept TAF. We could have put that money to better use (e.g. buying body armour for troops, better protection for our tanks, fire finding radars etc etc).
Air force chief must go. His methods are way over the top and he is not delivering.
For example, with proper air support, we should have been able to take out long-range arti at K-point a long time ago. We've spent millions of USD since the first Muhamale debacle and lost 100's of troops but still the tigers are firing from K-point. This arti is not only stopping a major thrust towards EPS, but also putting Palaly air base under threat.
This situation should not be allowed to continue any longer. If we don't take action now, in a year there will be another battle and we'll lose another 150 troops. When will we learn?
andare,
ReplyDelete"ARMY R&D should give a try to create mobile bunkers"
Can't APC's can do the job? (As they are already doing) But if you are talking about something with higher protection, we need something like the Israeli DF Achzarit. But buying or making something like that is going to be very expensive. Besides, a 'mobile bunker' would be slow moving (because of the weight) and armed with only T-56's and machine guns (weapons the soldiers inside are carrying). But bunkers are not indestructible either, if we do something like this LTTE will use weapons like RPO Schmel and ATGM's. The slow moving bunkers will be sitting ducks.
"Cant we use Silica tiles to coverup MID tanks, so that it can withstand the heat generated by the RPG."
It's not only the heat that is the destructive power of the RPG, there are several ways of penetrating armour, depending on the type or ammunition used. HEAT rounds for example, create a very high velocity jet of metal that can go through armour. But there are new and effective methods like reactive armour and we are using them too on the MBT's. But they don't make the tank indestructible. If the tank is attacked again and again, then it will be destroyed
Mottapala,
ReplyDeleteWoudn't you agree my friends. The reason we cant defeat this MF is they use common sense. Not expensive gadgets.
Totaly agree with you! We just don't seem to have any commen sense!
sorry about the grammar mistakes in my earlier comment.
ReplyDeleteParakrama,
It is better (and less expensive) if we can attack them on the ground, but we'll need better intel for that - both aerial recon and ground intelligence. We still don't know how many planes they have for sure. And some people say they have helicopters as well, but that too we do not know for sure. Our people will probably be working on finding out these details first. Then only can we launch air strikes on their positions (after finding out the positions), and safely say we have completely destroyed the TAF. It's going to be pretty embarrassing if we say they are no more, and a week later another one comes and drops a bomb somewhere. But that is the way our people usually work.
Chamal,
ReplyDeleteYou are dead right! That is exactly the way our guys work, pissing against the wind, again and again!
Anyway, my point was that we should have a commonsense approach to targeting their aircraft.
For example, it would have been a LOT more efficient (both against TAF & arti) if we had spent USD 75 Million purely on purchasing a fleet of drones and fuelling them so that they are flying over Wanni 24/7.
Also, we could’ve “enticed” a few people to give a tip or two with that kind of money!
We should not shout out loud saying “TAF is finished” once we bomb one of their locations. We should just say we managed to destroy X number of LTTE planes.
And if we manage to actually bomb one aircraft hangar using UAV’s and using their take off/landing information, then they will be very careful about bringing out their aircraft next time.
Andare,
ReplyDeleteMate are your coordinates correct? There's only a huge green forest there.
sam,
ReplyDeleteAgreed and edited.
Just desappearing is not that easy for a plane. At least it must land.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure why we couldn't target it when it was landed.
30 min is a lot of time.
My worry is that SLAF was not ready for this attack.
[Parakrama said...
ReplyDelete… We just don't seem to have any common sense!]
Our gold braided generals from Sandhurut, Wetpaint and Dimdamdoon etc would do nothing against the books.
We were about 10 miles away from the battle zone, when Mutthur and sampur operations were on. We saw from that distance MMBL streaking away into the sky and from the smoke trails one could easily make a clever deduction to the approximate location of these MMBLs.I think the tigers just guessed the location in a similar way and use these planes to create a progerganda,much needed at this hour. I doubt that they really had any inside information as to Gps coordinates,etc or they would comedown low and dropped right on top, as they had the element of surprise here.
ReplyDeleteMuch bigger letdown is the capture of Madhu,where the security forces were really incompetent in allowing all the terrorists leave that place. Some of the escapees were very top rankers, we think some were recalled to Vanni,some went to TN(where their next centre of operations would be),some in Wilpattu.Perhaps Madu is another Trojan horse left behind, where our stupid forces may gave this place back without checking thoroughly and terrorists emerge from deep underground bunkers beneath the crypts and ug vaults that is normally built by portugeese.Where are the POWs and how did they vanish? How come terrorists inspired IC made a such a fuss over that place until…This is a hollow victory, opportunity missed. they need a command structure very close to India where they could tap into the mobile cell loop of that country, where our security agencies may find it difficult to intercept. In other words to simplify what I say is to use an Indian cell phone in SL without going into our network. From Chilaw to Jaffna the sf should have physical control of this belt to stop this type of contact with the outside world. They are still communicating abroad this way, I think.
Kevin,
ReplyDeleteOn second thoughts kevin..i dont think there is a mole here.Once the army is in control of madu we can comb the place to our satisfaction.I think the army needs to speak to the population in that area to get an idea as to what was really going on there.
I picked up an interesting tit bit from defencewire..according to them the army thinks it is easier to advance from muhamalai than the south..wonder why..anyway this seems to be the belief because Gen Fonseka has added 4 divs(including 2 reserves) to jaffna from 27,000-34,000 soldiers.
ReplyDeleteKevin,
ReplyDelete"Much bigger letdown is the capture of Madhu,where the security forces were really incompetent in allowing all the terrorists leave that place."
Please talk to somebody with some knowledge of the ground situation in Madhu. If you do that you won't make such arguments.
Chamal,
ReplyDelete"menna sudda karapu kale"
LTTE RUNWAY - Vllankulam
Near to the Yellow marker, several building are located
ReplyDeleteCounter measures to Viet Cong mine warfare
ReplyDeleteSLAF MI24 crashes in Anuradhapura
ReplyDelete[TamilNet, Friday, 27 April 2007, 05:58 GMT]
A Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) helicopter gunship, MI 24, that took off from Anurdhapura airbase following the reports of unidentified aircraft over Puttalam sea Thursday night, crashed into a private land adjoining the airforce base at 10:55 p.m.
Both pilots and gunmen escaped unhurt.
The incident occurred a few minutes after the Katunayake SLAF personnel activated the alarm system, military officials said.
TRUE OR FALSE?? WEll, lookin at the defence.lk article on the muhamalai debacle and the tamilnet one,appears to me to go with the latter..
Defeating Tin Cans
ReplyDeleteWe call it tin cans. But they do the job for them.
We got multi million dollar super sonics. They cant do the job. Good for so called multi layer defence bulshit.
Lets get prctical. Buy some SAM's for a fraction of that cost. Hand it over to some battle hardened Sergeants with a little bit of training. They are the most common sensed in the army. They are the ones who advise even brigadiers when they wet themselves. Give them cheap cellphones with a kit card.
Spread them in the FDLs and each near MBRLS and HQ's. Thats what I would have done if I had some authority. Reaso,
1. First of all to save my ass being shot by Tin Cans
2. To save my boys
3. to save the guns, the country etc etc etc
Bt the way, this Rev Rayappu fellow is demanding we declare two mile zone around the church to neutral if we want the our Lady Madhu to be brought back. Two F....ing miles.
ReplyDeleteOn second thought, mmmm ok. We dont want it to be brought back. Keep it wherever it is. And you keep your mouth shut and bugger off.
And, dont come crying if it is reduced to dust by an artilary round. Its totaly your fault. We Told you so!
renegade,
ReplyDeleteThat was an old news story. And yes it was true.
Hemantha
ReplyDeleteDo we really need to be there to figure things out? If did capture Madhu,which I think we did, then where are the pows or the dead. did they vanish into thin air?Victorius parties should display their achievements? Don’t you think it’s sensible to bring up the morale of every one when the country just witnessed a big carnage? It is meaningless to hide these things from the taxpaying public and those who are fighting for the nation at the front.
Srilankan,
Forces must thoroughly check out any possibility of anything and any body remaining there. In Vietnam they vanished like this to an underground network of bunkers to come back and annihilate a complete battalianThese military strategist sometimes check and rely on historical battles. We have to check our every scenario if we are to win this war.
Moththaya,
ReplyDeleteI am 100% agree with you. We should go for simple yet effective methods, rather than spending millions on unsuitable things.
May be this LTTE air crafts are comming from Tamilnadu.
Kevin,
ReplyDeleteFully agree with you.Yes we dont want any trogan horses
Media has created a right environment for the LTTE for morale bosster.
ReplyDeleteAll the media turn against to SLDF because of one incident, despite thousands of LTTE were killed past months.
Despite the East has been libarated and handed over to the Civilians.
I can predict, LTTE will use it maximum resourses to mount attacks on south, east and north in comming days.
COW DUNG operation is one of that.
Sea tigers are silent and they also will try to break to some important installations. There will be some more COW DUNG operations.
If they successful in three four attacks down the line, Meida will create the rest for them to start a another Unceasing wave.
Morale of the Soldiers are very important.
It is really unbelivable, south media is waiting to see the success stories of LTTE.
Kevin,
ReplyDelete"If did capture Madhu,which I think we did, then where are the pows or the dead. did they vanish into thin air?"
I think I shouldn't bother to answer. Carry on.
Hemantha
ReplyDeleteSorry to bother you again, hope you are not in the army? Perhaps covering up or closing rank on the continuous mistakes we are making. I am truly a patriotic person, commting much in SL and I have right to question anything that is going wrong. It’s my right, however abusive some people are to people like us. I would be happy to see the day this terrorist problem is ended for once and for all. This MiG 29 affair is bad buy,any fool can see, perhaps done for a notorious reason. We like to question the people concerned if it was an unpatriotic act to spend a vast amount on a piece of hardware that is inappropriate to our needs.
Hemantha
ReplyDelete‘ think I shouldn't bother to answer. Carry on.’
I see your point now, hope they have done a good job of it.
[andare said...
ReplyDeleteIt is really unbelivable, south media is waiting to see the success stories of LTTE.
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andare, I think around 50% are born UNP and they blindly follow their clans. Their Nation is UNPian, not Sri Lankan. It is urgent to explain to the people that the Nation is beyond politics and betraying the National State is punishable by death. In most of the West, there are State Security organisations which are dedicated, efficient and expedient. Anti National elements are neutralised in smoothly and silently. For these countries, their State is the God itself.
What surprises me most is the very low quality of official defence related websites of the GOSL. Thses sites are infested with moles/anti-national rouges who sabotage these precious resources with impunity.
If the visible tip of the iceberg is so rotten, what is underneath must be pestilential.
Nobody bothers and the misery drags on. If each of us do not assume our responsibilities, there will be no change.
DefenceNet..when you have the time..
ReplyDeleteAccording to defense.lk..the LTTE has incurred a loss of a further 12 cadres in muhamalai battle..this gives a total about 110.Are we to take these figures as accurate?..
Guys,
ReplyDeleteThe Tigers, international media and some of our own UNPers are eager to clutch at any trivial thing to discredit the armed forces.
This is the time, we must carefully comment on sensitive stuff.
The forces are not headed by the culprits who wanted to drag this war for ever. The present commanders are genuinely committed to bring this to an end. We must give them the benefit of doubt, when a few things go wrong - occassionaly of course.
They don't get things wrong all the time; that era is gone.
General Fonseka repeatedly said that his main aim was to get rid of as many brutes as possible, before moving his focus on the occupation of Vanni. Throughout the recent operations, we see this concept - 10 or more a day - criss-crossing at regular intervals.
I agree with the folks who said that going for high-tech may eclipse low-tech stuff that needs just commonsense. For instance, low-flying aircrafts could have been targetted by ground-based anti-aircraft gun before relying on the Air Force to fire air-to-air missile from a Mig-29.
Why it did not happen is a mystery; I hope the army may find out it sooner than later.
Despite my technical background, I chose to be a skeptic when it comes to this silver-bullet-phenomenon - high tech warfare.
Let's keep our feeling in our chest without pouring over here in situations of this kind; we don't inflate the balloon of impetus that lays dorment in the lap of international conspirators.
@ parakrama
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree another thing is that our interceptor planes may not be armed for air to air combat at all times.
I agree that it is crazy that KAB couldn't be defended all you need is a plane with a cannon to shoot down these aircraft.
I agree with parakrama.
ReplyDeleteThe SLAF chief must go.
He has done good stuff as well; he maintained quality and safety of planes from internal sabotuers. This is a good point i see in him.
other than that there is nothing good in him.
we need new thinking in the SLAF to be more proactive, aggressive and relevant.
we have a massive AF than before and the money that was invested should work.
True he has been unabelt to protect his own assets repeatedly from the LTTE. As it happens ALWAYS in SL nobody takes responsibility and EXCUSES ARE ABOUND.
but there cannot be so many excuses.
i recon the same with the navy commander. true enough he did perform well in the past. but the war demands much more from him and he has been unable to deliver.
alternatively, we should have patriotic experts (not just experts) advising the top bras and they should act on such advice. this is VERY difficult in SL as there is a big "personality" around big shots in the SLDFs.
otherwise we become the laughing stock of everybody.
tigers have exploited this rigidity, the inability to change, redtape,etc. to their advantage.
"I picked up an interesting tit bit from defencewire..according to them the army thinks it is easier to advance from muhamalai than the south."
ReplyDeleteHey Srilankan hows it going man, anyway just a minor correction I htink you read that wrong, DW said its easier to break through froom Kilali/Muhamali side than from Nagerkovil, they did not mean from southern FDLs (Wanni, Weli Oya).
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ReplyDeleteupul revy,
ReplyDeletehow nice.
captured SLA soldiers are taken to the "sakkilinochci hilton" whereas captured LTTE cadres are taken to Bindunuwewa.
how unfair?
if tigers are so nice, why can't they release them without using them as a bargaining tool?
that is why tigers are barbarians. they even use humans as a bargaining tool!! dispicable.
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ReplyDeleteupul revy,
ReplyDeletetruth hurts isn't it?
now you are making personal attacks draging me because you cannot take the truth.
if SL does barbaric acts like the tigers, it will also be a banned terrorist in 35 countries!!!
israel and SL have very good relations. they have even let SL build their boats under a royalty agreement!! they have given UAVs free of charge to SL
don't talk crap revy. have your tamill elam in hell!!
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ReplyDeletethat was in 1989.
ReplyDeletethey realised the mistake after LTTE's other terror links were exposed.
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ReplyDeleteMachan Moshe Dyan
ReplyDeleteKale nasthi karaganna epa machan munta answer karanna gihilla. Thalayanata sathutu wenna deepan. Mun wage un innakan one sri lanka, one sri lankan nation is a dream only. Api ape kale , adrenaline, and salli nasthi karaganna eka wtithrai.
"Mun wage un innakan one sri lanka, one sri lankan nation is a dream only."
ReplyDelete%#@!$#...??????
A RAT?
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ReplyDeleteanaconda,
ReplyDeleteyou are right. but its fun. these LTTE supporters are diging their own grave!! i like to lend them a shoval.
upul revy,
come on man. REVY quotes an article by BRAMAN (not b. raman) published in DBSJEYERAJ's website!!!
what a joke?
it is like how your crowd here including you, the boss, crimewatch, my shadow patting each others!!
ask braman to use a suicide bra!!
DN
ReplyDeleteHow effetive is the sand bags against RPG attacks???
Defence I heard that Col.Prasanna de Silva
ReplyDeleteis the new 53rd Commander
quite a god news right?
patriot,
ReplyDeleteCol. Prasanna Silva is the new commander of the 55th
Given the problems between Prasanna Silva & Sarath Fonseka I wonder how this appointment came into being.Was it ordered by the political leader ship dissapointed with Sarath Fonseka? or have they forgotten past differences and working for a common goal
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ReplyDeleteDefenceWire also mentioned this as 53rd??
ReplyDelete"The 53 Division is now under one of the best and most highly committed officers; Brigadier and Special Forces Officer Prasanna Silva. Brigadier Silva took over command at a small function yesterday. His brilliant leadership and strategy led to the capture of Mavil Aru"
mathematica,
ReplyDelete"It is urgent to explain to the people that the Nation is beyond politics and betraying the National State is punishable by death."
Maybe you should follow your own advice. What you belive to be in the best intrest of the nation may be completly opposite of what some body else thinks dose that make him/her a traitor? who's to say wether you or the other person is wrong or right? only history will be deliver the ultimate judgement.
"In most of the West, there are State Security organisations which are dedicated, efficient and expedient. Anti National elements are neutralised in smoothly and silently."
The only western nation i can think of who practised this was Germany when a guy called Adolf Hitler came into power
Patriot
ReplyDeleteFrom what i know Brig Kamal Gunarathne who was commanding the 55th has been moved to 53rd.
Brig (not col sorry for earlier mistake) Prasanna Silva is to command 55th.
I am sure Defencenet will confirm this
Brig. Prasanna Silva is appointed as GOC 55 division while Brigadier Kamal Gunarathne will take over the position of GOC 53th div. This is the same as what we reported earlier.
ReplyDeleteCable,
ReplyDeleteMy handle is not Mathematica, but MathaMathica, Matha=Concepts, Mathica=Upholder. (Looks like Singhala is confined only to Aaya’s kitchen!)
I fully agree that deciding what is the National Interest is not easy. When the people are aware of the Nation, which is the case with, for example Thailand, all civic organisations are automatically geared to protect the National Interest, which is not the case in SL.
Behaviour of media such as Wijaya Newspapers, Maharaja’s, certain political parties etc is execrable.
In your West, there are parliamentary select committees, or to go little further Eurocentric secret organisations such as France Masons, which study what is good or bad for the Nation in the most serious manner.
These organisations do not use brute violence to shape the society.. Things are arranged using social, medical, commercial, academic …. pressure. People are taken out of circulation with no violence and little noise.
I am a MathaMathica, not an AnthanoMathica. These are only the ideas of 1 in 20million. Let us discuss and filter the best. It is the Nation which matters. I do not promote secret organisations.
It seems the colonial slave shackles in our brains, blocks any straight thinking …. And let Mervin Silva decide what is the National Interest!
firerain,
ReplyDeleterefer Galgamuwa bomb blast again in a BUS that was averted..see how easy it is.."if there is a will there is a way"..know what i mean..
Jack,
ReplyDeleteI am fine mate.hope your ok.your right..i misinterpreted what he said..My sincere apologies..wonder if we can box these guys in nagerkovil.
Parakrama,
ReplyDeleteI guess in this instance it was difficult to intercetp these planes.
Weli Oya is quite close to Mulladuva (Mulaitivu) and Giranikke (Kilinochchi)
and the fighters based in Colombo had little time to intercept them?
Kevin,
Madhu church. May be the SLA used a tactic to let the LTTE terrorists escape
so the the curch could be saved unharmed. Can someone confirm this. I read
somewhere that the SLA was using a tactic such as this. If this is the case
I think saving the church in exchange for some tiger terrorists is quite the
correct decision.
Mottapala,
Your comments are interesting. Would Gen. SF push something like this?
i.e. SAM's and Mobile phones?
On the Madhu church. Rev. Ryappu Joseph wants a two mile peace zone.
That's not enoug. I think we need about a 30 km radius peace zone.
It's best they transfer the statue after we make this peace zone.
Great India!
ReplyDeleteThis is the way! Symbiosis!
Ideally this could be a donation!
if srilankan navy blocked arms smuggling who gives continuosly mortar's(example defence.lk says ltte fired more than 1000 mortars in muhamale 23rd april) and artillery rounds for ltte????
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ReplyDelete$100 million for 2% interest..wow
It could be that the LTTE terrorists may have stock piled arms sufficient for a number of years.
ReplyDeletesan said...
ReplyDeleteif srilankan navy blocked arms smuggling who gives continuosly mortar's(example defence.lk says ltte fired more than 1000 mortars in muhamale 23rd april) and artillery rounds for ltte????
maybe they have 'stocks'???
San,
ReplyDeleteAs you know the LTTE have large stocks of mortar ammo as we are finding out in Batti these days.Basically the whole of this simon gardners "LTTE AREA" under the control of the " democratic? republic of EELAM" in one ammo dump.What you failed to mention is that the article said that very few artillary rounds were fired..why do you think that is??..more mortar fire and less artillary fire?.Now these guys had the perfect opportunity to kill as many troops as possible.dont you think they could have killed more troops by artillery fire as opposed to mortar fire?..so why not?..did they go religious all of a sudden or was it that they are short of artillary shells? Most soldiers died because they took cover in LTTE bunkers which were mined.The navy is doing a great job but can be improved further.
MathaMathica,
ReplyDeletesorry for the spelling mistake on your name.
I am completly lost trying to figure out what you are talking about in your post. France masons? wernt they a secret society accused of devil worship in france in the 19th century who gets a mention in the DaVinci code? Mervin silva where did he come up?
Please dont take any offense I say this with the greatest respect , you may not be AnthanoMathica but if you dont make sense in what you say you may be called UmathuMathica
in the future
Sri Lanka To Build Memorial For Indian Soldiers
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DN,
ReplyDeleteShall we try to start a Internet Radio. I think there are lots of people, who can contribute positively to achieve this.
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ReplyDeleteandare,
ReplyDeleteaccording to coordinates given by you ..this suspected airstrip 20-25km from madhu area.but it's more than 80km away from welioya front why ltte bombed welioya front instead of madhu-mannar or any other front?
this means LTTE air strip may be in mullathivu district
Another thing our radars spotted them for 30minutes according to some news items is this true??? if they flew for 30 minutes time in bothways if you calculae zlin's maximum speed we can realise some thing.i hope this time our MI-SLAf-intelligence gathered some vital info about whereabout's of the zlins and where they came from
The bomb inside the Galgamuwa bus had actually been 2 mortar bombs fixed to a timer! This means that they have brought them from LTTE controlled area... not like smuggling in explosives and other stuff separately and assembling the bomb here. This should be more difficult, shouldn't it?
ReplyDeleteAnd Air Force has bombed Iranamadu. Just a normal attack or some big target in mind?
Cable,
ReplyDeleteGrow up, avoid unnecessary superlatives.
France Masons / Franc Masons from Wikipedia:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins (theorised to be anywhere from the time of the building of King Solomon's Temple to the mid-17th century). Freemasonry now exists in various forms all over the world, with a membership estimated at around 5 million, with around 480,000 in England, Scotland and Ireland alone, and just under two million in the United States.[1][2]
Etc etc
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Be curious . Cross read 100 sources before coming to a conclusion.
EU commission (if you know what it is) is run almost by the FMs, may be US also.
Nations are built with blood and toil.
VOTE UNP
ReplyDeleteMathaMathica,
ReplyDelete"Grow up, avoid unnecessary superlatives."
Bit rich isnt it from a person whos login name is and i quote from your postings
"Matha=Concepts, Mathica=Upholder Matha Mathica "
"Be curious . Cross read 100 sources before coming to a conclusion."
Maybe you should follow your own advise bfore making statements like below
"EU commission (if you know what it is) is run almost by the FMs, may be US also."
keep the replies coming i will try to repond that is if i dont break some ribs laughing,this is getting funnier & funnier
Have a hearty laugh, Mr.Mahadaenamuththa of the LTTE/UNP combine.
ReplyDeleteඇන්.ජී.ඕ.බà¶්බැලයා
ReplyDelete"VOTE UNP"
---Anaconda likes that machan...:):):)
MathaMathica,
ReplyDelete"Have a hearty laugh, Mr.Mahadaenamuththa of the LTTE/UNP combine."
werent you the one who posted
"Be curious . Cross read 100 sources before coming to a conclusion."
and now you accuse me of being "Mr.mahadaenamuthth"
Hillarious!!!!!!!
i think i just broke a gut!
sorry defencenet for these non defence realted comments. but this is so funny i cant help myself.
-- OPEN NOTICE TO ALL --
ReplyDeleteAnyone who will hack websites related to LTTE will be rewarded.
THIS IS A REAL NOTICE.
Andare,
ReplyDeleteSorry, your coordinates are correct. I had checked a different place earlier, with one digit different. I commented about this earlier but that has disappeared (Defencenet, did you delete it???? There was nothing 'against the rules' in it)
Anyway this one is about 450m x 15m, and the smaller runway (south of the larger one at Iranamadu - 9° 14'34.60"N 80°29'46.66E) is about 500m x 20m. So if it is a runway I guess this is enough for a Zlin. But this one doesn't look as well made as the other two.... Maybe still under construction or abandoned before being complete because of the army advance?
chamal,
ReplyDeletethese google images taken in between 2003-2004 period.SLAF can use current UAV s effectively to find these runways and their night movements/operations.
beechcraft(that equipped with syntehetic aperture radar) we lost in AAB attack is a huge blow to our reconnaissance capability over wanni.that's why they master planned it.
chamal,
ReplyDeleteGoogleearth sat. images of SL is old at least two years.
they update some other countries but the SL images are exactly the same as two years before.
so the images show the situ. a long time ago. things would have changed by now,
san,
ReplyDeletedidn't see your post.
san, moshe,
ReplyDeleteYes you're right. I didn't think about that. But I have a feeling that LTTE has created runways as 'decoys' and are operating from somewhere else. Any idea how much a Zlin has to travel before takeoff? Can't be more than 500m, so could even use a straight and level road (sorry if this is stupid)
[cable said...
ReplyDeleteCol. Prasanna Silva is the new commander of the 55th
Given the problems between Prasanna Silva & Sarath Fonseka I wonder how this appointment came into being.
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Dont be too curious Mr. Huunumuththa, I am extremely prejudiced against LTTE/UNP,
chamal,
ReplyDeleteneed only a runway of 380-400m
The Z-143 has a maximum speed of 260 kilometres (162 miles)per hour
Unmanthica,
ReplyDelete"Dont be too curious Mr. Huunumuththa, I am extremely prejudiced against LTTE/UNP,"
Wow..... LTTE and UNP must be crapping their pants in fear, for good reason too you'd make them die laughing....
"Huunumuththa"
he!he!he!he!he!he!he
c'mon! cant you really come up with something better than this How old are you 14?
Guys,
ReplyDeleteThere is not much on military front; so, I decided to tell a tale.
Nadesan in Wonderland
Mr Nadesan, the political head of the Tamil Tigers has been making a lot of political observations recently. Since the rest of his contemporaries are on border protection duties, Mr Nadesan’s role in the Wonderland has never been more important. All the indications are that he has taken his responsibilities seriously, very seriously, to be more precise.
It is a stroke of luck or political inheritance that lands you in a position that demands a lot of acumen and instincts, especially when you have neither. Mr Nadesan’s meteoric rise – from police constable at Kirulapona police station in Colombo to Head of the Tamil Ealam Police force at first and then to the present position – should not be attributed to the accident of birth alone – lucky to be a cousin of Mr Velupillai Prabhakan. He may have been a clever man, one way or the other, something we don’t know yet.
In real world, this appointment can be modelled by appointing Dr Mervyn Silva to the post of the Secretary General of the United Nations, to make him the greatest cohesive force, since the invention of super glue.
Whatever the pros and cons, as his critics moan about, Mr Nadesan is a powerful figure in his own right, a force to reckon with, in his Wonderland.
He gets up early, and then pees on to the vegetation that surrounds his comfortable bunker to make sure the plants are not short of minerals that give them the fresh green colour.
Mr Nadesan is someone who hates the word, camouflage; he does not want to be mimicked by a chameleon. After the usual routine, he meets the diplomats too, who normally do not come along diplomatic channels, without the aid of interpreters. How he talks to them may sound a mystery and I can assure you that communication does takes place without a trace of hindrance.
His predecessor, Mr Thamil Chelvam, got over the problem of communication with the diplomats by a unique strategy; kept smiling, until two things happened: either diplomats fell under his spell first, then off the chair, in that order or just gave up questioning.
Charm is not Mr Nadesan’s strong point. So, he has compensated for this obvious handicap that could bring in more misery for him, thanks to a friend in need.
One of his regular visitors has helped him to overcome this difficulty. He is none other than famously divine, Rev Rayappu.
Pious Christians are blessed with a unique gift that you and I can only envy – speaking in tongues. The gifted individual can go into a trance at a time of his choosing and speak in a language that is alien to us. Usually, it is said, the person who can interpret the message is also in the vicinity, when this happens.
Don’t be sceptical folks, it is true and Qrious has seen it with his own eyes.
Rev Rayappu has passed on this rare gift to Mr Nadesan. So, when he is in the company of diplomats, he is speaking in tongues, which no one understands. Then the diplomats do the obvious thing that is left for them – interpretation. They do exactly that – interpreting the message in their own ways. It is not particularly religious on the part of diplomats, but Mr Nadesan’s is rescued from acute embarrassment.
Nadesan has a caring side too. His care for the elderly is especially legendary. He does not want old Tamil folks to stay in chairs and beds until the inevitable biological law – use or lose - takes its toll on them. He uses them in what they are really good at – digging up trenches.
There are no deadlines; critics may say that there is no need of them when death already stares in the face of these hapless folks, due to exhaustion. However, Mr Nadesan chose to be different from them.
His care for kids as if his own stands out among other good traits. He takes them away from the parents after passing a certain age; otherwise, he thinks, the parents will be more possessive of kids and it is not good in the long run. Mr Nadesan thinks that the occupation of kids in war games is much more productive than doing the same in virtual computer games. He has his point.
Another area of interest in his wonderland is the education. Mr Nadesan is a great enthusiast in this field and his favourite subject is history. So, he has included some chapters of his own in this subject, after consulting his boss, Mr Prabhakaran. His critics in the south may say that he is tampering with history. I disagree. There is nothing left that has not been tampered with, in Vanni and history does not have to be the exception.
Mr Nadesan needs a salute of respect for what he does, to hold his Wonderland closer to his chest. He used to get a lot of salutes when he headed the Tamil Eelam police force, by his subordinates. The need of a special salute has never been more urgent in the light of his new role.
Despite the rosy life in his Wonderland, there is one thing that disturbs Mr Nadesan very badly – the intermittent explosions of artillery, from what he calls, the neighbours. He hates this sound that annoys his subjects. He even quite mockingly calls it ‘fart’.
As the sound of fart gets louder and then closer, Mr Nadesan may demand that the fart must be put on Richter Scale, to save him from an imminent danger.
The day dreaming, even in Wonderland, can bring in misfortunes. I can only pray for Mr Nadesan.
With profound apologies to Alison
Defencenet,
ReplyDeleteafter the lost of beechcraft with synthetic aperture radar system on 22nd october 2007 AAB attack did SLAF upgraded other beechcraft equipped with HISAR technology?
A Building adjacent to iranamadhu air strip? Could it be the hide out for the tin cans.. or a wild guess?
ReplyDeleteDid our MI got some accurate intel or is it the same old fart lol?
Anybody has got more details..
Not likely that LTTE will keep the tin cans close to the air strip. It'd be too risky, iranamadu seems to be a popular target for SLAF.
ReplyDelete9°21'19.11"N
ReplyDelete80°30'53.91"E
may be this complex
Defence.lk doesn't give any precise details.. I smell something lol...
ReplyDeleteCould it be? Not?
Getting really curious!!
Usually the trend in the las t few months or few weeks has been after a TAF attack they lost something major... Am I the only one who is feeling this way?
Gents,
ReplyDeleteAre you sure it is a good idea to waste our bombs(very expensive for us) on runways.I think we need to preserve our bombs so that we can use them to "maveer" as many of these LTTE cadres as possible during the army advance.It is taking a big chance because these tin cans are most lethal when used as suicide craft.How much damage can a bomb attached to a crop duster really do given its weight limit..
srilankan,
ReplyDeletethat's true it's useless wasting bombs on unpaved runways without knowing the exact runway and where abouts of zlins.how many times SLAF bombed iranamadu airstrip after airstrikes.
hey gyus found new thing,,,
ReplyDeletejust try to send a comment to lanka e news...hahah...very funny mangala's site...they never publish comment from the gmail accounts..shyaam ,,upul,,try it machang may be you can..
lanka e news just publish a report about "rani"the terrerist..already they Q the police speaker...any one know these political mafia ever Q police or any one regarding piliyandala,,waliveriya,,kabithigollawa..
ReplyDeleteI think the zlins have become more of an irritant than a serious threat..
ReplyDeleteJust imagine if these are taken out.. what a world of good it could do..
It will completely demoralise the ltte/ diaspora and its supporters.
It will be a huge octane boost for the SLDF.
san,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment.Of course if it was me i would not bomb any of these so called airfields and conserve our bombs.After a while with gods blessing our infantry will come across these planes or the charred remains of them as the army advances.Sending these tinpots have several ulterior motive.. that is to make us spend money on new bombs...make the war un-economical for us. Could it also be a means of escape for this Vp?? i wonder.
San,
ReplyDeleteOur target is to save the lives of both the SLDF and the people (not to bomb pointless pieces of runway) and to "maveer" as many LTTE cadres as possible.So our planes should be defintely used to assist the army in their offensive operations whenever possible..because i dont think the planes will be of any use at 0200 in the morning
Srilankan said... Gents,
ReplyDeleteAre you sure it is a good idea to waste our bombs(very expensive for us) on runways."
I second Sri Lankan's statement. It is a complete waste of valuable resources to bomb these dirt strips. On the other hand the fact that the SLAF has been unable to stop these aircraft after so many encounters shows the ineptitude of that institution. While the SLAF has developed certain technical expertise over time, it has not undergone the type of organizational and leadership transformation that the SLN and SLA has been forced to experience over the last ten years. After the AAF attack, the top echelon should have been sacked and court martial proceedings should have been instituted against the offices responsible for base security. I understand from DW that 6000 SLAF ground troops are being retrained by the SLA but that will not solve the leadership issues. My uncle served honorably in the SLAF in Eelam wars 1 and 2, and nearly lost his life on several occasions. Also I have friends who were part of this institution. This criticism is not of the many valiant men but of the poor leadership.
Casc,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment bro.I know your right but who are we going to replace them with and is this the right time to do it?..and how will this appear to the other forces..i am not sure if i am thinking about this aspect of job security in their eyes..if you know what i mean... i dont want them selling info to the LTTE as a result of being unemployed..not that it will happen..but you never know..Alternative would be to keep them where they are but "clip" their "wings" so that they just become tokens of these institutions..
Punday Eelam,
ReplyDeleteCan you please list down LTTE site
hahaha... SLAF bombed on LTTE airstrip and the building which is closure to the airstrip ... how many times they bombed the Airstrip ? everytime LTTE have successfully finished their missions.....
ReplyDeleteI wonder why don't they chase the LTTE planes and shoot them down yesterday while they were airborne or landing... these MF are coward and very scary to go closure to the LTTE ...hOooo hooo hoooo hooo
..... shame on you people atleast try something ....
Iqbal Athas has another shocker in his weekly column. He claims that the Air Force Commander, Navy Commander and Chief of Defence Staff (CDC) were not aware of the Muhamalai operation. I noticed that the CDC has been absent from official photographs for some time. Reminds me of Soviet Times when people fall in and out of grace. Today the CDC suddenly shows up in the Army.LK website visiting Yala with General SF. If what Athas is saying is true, then the overall command structure is seriously flawed. It is an open secret that some of the top brass have been bickering among themselves but this is getting to a point where they are endangering the country's security with their personality issues.
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"The news of the incident reached Government leaders when the National Security Council was in session. It is here that President Rajapaksa heard the initial accounts. The Sunday Times has learned that there was neither naval nor air support when the operation got under way. The inclusion of naval and air support in a major operation, even to a lay mind it is clear, is of much significance. So are contingency plans for evacuation of the wounded.
The Commanders of the Navy and the Air Force were unaware of the operation. So was the Chief of Defence Staff (CDS). Only after the offensive had ended, however, the Air Force had carried out sorties. One was on a guerrilla artillery gun position.
In the light of this a number of questions beg answer. What led to the poor planning of such an offensive operation without inputs from the Navy and the Air Force?"
Casc,
ReplyDeleteIf iqbal is right..it poses a lot of serious questions..
when reading ltte casualties..do you know what these ena una ayyana in front of their names mean?
Srilankan,
ReplyDeleteMate, I believe more than the military debacles, we have to concentrate on why our political leaders cannot make necessary policy decisions to make life difficult for LTTE, Tamil Diaspora, NGOs with 'attitude' problems, LTTE coolies living in style safely in the south.
Our defence forces have come a long long way.... and yes... they have to go a long way to.
So long as SLDF are keeping that Elaam pie floating...and only wet dreams are the order of the day for the LTTE pigs/ Tamil Diaspora, I'm a happy camper.