Monday, March 24, 2008

Heavy fighting in Mannar amidst bad weather

Despite continuous rain, the Sri Lanka Army (SLA) and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) have been engaged in firefights in the Mannar front for the last few days. Heaviest fighting was reported in the area between Parayakulam and Illanthevan where the troops gained control of around 1 square km area last Saturday (24th).

Pro LTTE media put SLA casualty figures at 55 killed and 120 injured. Our sources flatly deny these claims. The actual SLA casualty figures are less than one third of what is claimed by Pro LTTE Tamilnet.com site. In Parayakulam, 8 LTTE bunkers were overrun during the fighting. Bodies of 10 LTTE cadres which had been left behind when the tigers pulled back from the bunkers were later found by the army. Fighting was also reported in Vavuniya, Weli Oya and Nagarkovil fronts. For the last three days, total confirmed LTTE deaths incurred from fighting at these three fronts exceed 40. At least 5 of the kills were made by army snipers deployed at northern front and at Weli Oya front. The number of LTTE injured is not exactly known.

Mannar front is probably the most affected by the recent rains. Army operations in this area will be reduced until the weather improves. There are many threats posed by the continuous rain; The wet and muddy ground is a nightmare for armored corps. Maneuverability of heavy vehicles becomes much more difficult in soggy ground. In addition to this, it is near impossible to detect enemy trenches and deathtraps if the area is flooded by water; this is lethal to vehicles and soldiers alike. Usually, the locations where mines are placed are mapped by the party which places them. However, if the rains are heavy, the gushing water could change the location of buried mines. If this happens, the whole mining and mapping process will have to be repeated. Last but not least, flooding is bound to worsen the sanitary conditions in the affected area. This can cause the spreading of water borne diseases.

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217 comments:

  1. Greets patriots…someone gave me this link that shows the SLAF Mi24 birds in action in Parappankandal (crap, hope I have the spelling right! LMSSAO!) where recently SLA and SLAF jointly made short order of over 10 LTTE bunkers, “popping” over 30 LTTErs in three days, almost ½ of them LTTE women.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IcytP3i68&NR=1

    Apologize for the break-up in video (not my fault, but being the humble being that I am, I nevertheless apologize…LMSSAO!), but the interesting part is towards the 2nd half when you see our Mi24’s in action, going after identified LTTE mf’s targets with ferocious roars and rapid-spitting of the rockets…really WONDERFUL – especially because Parappankandal was pulverized and won!!!

    This was sweet music to my ears…much more than any of the sweet sounds I heard today at the Easter bash…and it should be sweet music to those patriots here too (like my bro MosheD) who have been complaining that they have not seen our Hinds in action for a long time.

    OaO Asithri

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  2. Here’s a frontline report from a young journalist who traveled right up to the “red zone” and revealed some very important points:

    http://lankamatha.blogspot.com/2008/03/front-line-soldiers-speak-out.html

    Important points:

    1. The high morale of the SLA combat units that are geared and pumped up to go all the way to Killinocchi

    2. Corroboration of SLA’s claims of substantive push-forwards and LTTE kills

    3. Corroboration from frontline commanders/chiefs of how this GOSL has allowed them the freedom to carry out his campaign effectively

    4. Evidence of how the SLA is now taking care of the battlefield personnel with precisely defined leave to go home and even the modes of transportations (that were sadly lacking earlier)

    And finally,

    5. How the SLA is coping with the human factor re. civilians in the areas liberated, with a utmost humanistic approach under trying conditions, despite it being a thankless job (from the like of Bishop Rayappu of Mannar)

    Enjoy the read as much as I did….

    OaO Asithri

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  3. guys,

    you have been saying that Army is advancing ? Where ?
    Repeatedly for the past 6 months i see the same places and names. If we have made advancements from which place to which place ?

    i have seen Adampan appearing so many times. SO many times being captured.

    Did we ever catch it or when are we going to catch it

    this makes me believe that we are very naive in thinking that LTTE can be wiped out.

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  5. my shadow, you need to read more!

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  6. Myshadow


    [this makes me believe that we are very naive in thinking that LTTE can be wiped out]

    Aha, maybe you are naïve thinking that LTTE CANNOT be wiped out…just as your type of bloody pessimists (from the Ranil the she-male pansy clan) thought so when our bravehearts were on the march to liberate the East, but once most of the East was liberated, yes, your type did a about-turn and still said “no, definitely Thoppigala will not fall to the SLA as it is fortified heavily by the LTTE with the best of the best LTTE units!!!”

    Well, we all know the rest is history!

    Pessimism is not wrong…except pessimism coupled to stupidity is not just wrong, but is a sin!

    :)) :)) :))

    OaO Asithri

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  7. sl,

    i am reading and that's why these questions.

    one time you guys wrote that we are about 1km to adampan junction. Did we ever get there ?

    many times we have captured and recaptured adampan south.

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  8. asithri,

    i am not day dreaming. i am pragmatic

    LTTE is weak in east, so they withdrew without a fight.

    now they are fighting. we could not advance.

    how many of them are left still. Foneska said only 3000 ltte. by now every one should have been gone, but we are still in the no-man's land in weli oya

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  9. my shadow,
    If you are sinhala..you should understand that the idea is not to capture land just yet.Pls go and read previous posts by DefenceNet who has taken so much trouble and gone through so much effort to post.

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  10. myshadow

    [LTTE is weak in east, so they withdrew without a fight.]

    Really?

    I am truly sorry for you (more for your intelligence!).

    LTTE lost over 2000+ cadres in the east before withdrawing, and you call it "withdre without a fight?"

    Wow!

    Pray tell me dude...are you another filthy LTTE maggot masquerading here as a "concerned Sri Lankan" or are you another RanilW UNP filthy unpatriotic mf who per RanilW claimed that SLA achievement in capturing ThoppiG was all a "nothing" as it was "just a jungle patch!"...???

    If you are neither, then yes, I truly feel sorry for you as you are a bloody misguided MORON!

    LMSSAO!!!

    OaO Asithri

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  11. "one time you guys wrote that we are about 1km to adampan junction. Did we ever get there ?

    many times we have captured and recaptured adampan south."

    We never captured the Adampan town center (also called the Adampan junction) We have never said SLA did capture it. South of Adampan is the general area South of Adampan town center. If you can read the post by sf-3 with the map it will further enlighten you about the geography of the area.

    http://sf-3.blogspot.com/2008/03/siege-of-adampan.html

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  12. Gents,
    What do you know about this coolie jayadevan who resides in london and is trying to get Mr Karuna back into the LTTE fold..the last part only a GUESS on my part?

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  13. Asithri

    why are you spitting venom. i am a concerned sri lankan. that's it.

    i dont have any affiliation

    our country is a democratic country and as a citizen of this great nation, i have the right to raise questions, concerns and state of the nation

    if you think every one raising question is unpatriotic, then your the one who is truly unpatriotic because, you don't care for people's sufferings.

    you drag on the war at the cost of poor. you drag on the war showing that victory is in sight. that's what happened for the past 25 years and that's what is happening now

    i am not a moron, neither do you nor the average sri lankan in the streets who just want a peaceful living without those check points, daily checking, traffic jam and that fear for life

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  14. Thanks Asithri; it is indeed one of the best i've seen.

    Just excellent!

    Sweeter than all the Easter bunnies and eggs!!

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  15. Myshadow-

    fcuk the Adampan junction, Adampan south, Adampan north, or even the bloody rectum of Adampan...what matters is since the begining of this year SLA along has killed over 1500 LTTE excreta maggots in the Vanni theatre in the beginning of this year alone and the LTTE’s “thamileelam” map now looks like a underdeveloped monkey’s dick after wasteful ejaculation! LMSSAO!!!

    Yo, you appear to be the typical LTTE=RanilW mf who is in denial...just like how they were in denial when their "LTTE recruitment bread basket" East was falling to SLDF!

    Dream on moron...as it won't be for too long!

    LMSSAO!!!

    OaO Asithri

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  16. my shadow,
    If you are sinhala..you should understand that the idea is not to capture land just yet
    ---

    yes, i know this is war of attrition. but what's the point when the inflated casualty figures are not matching the ground realities.

    when 10soldies die and missing, you guys give it as a news and forget it with you condemnation, but what will happen to those families who has lost their bread winner.

    will Rajapaksae brother given them the needs ? they will fly to USA and happily settle there as they are the citizens of USA, not Sri Lanka

    Please understand this...

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  17. "LTTE is weak in east, so they withdrew without a fight."

    LTTE was weak in the east compared to their strength in the north . But that doesnt mean they were sitting ducks. They made the tactical blunder of attacking Muttur and Mavil aru where they suffered heavily. Besides, they had a considerable number of troops plus heavy artillery guns and mortars including MBRLS. It's a combined effort by SF, Commando, regular infantry, armor and arty that saw the back of LTTE in the east. And they did suffer casualties although you may have not seen the bodies on tv.

    "now they are fighting. we could not advance."

    Thats incorrect. In Mannar and Vavuniya fronts, SLA frontlines are in some places 20km ahead of the places they were 1 year ago.

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  18. myshadow

    [you drag on the war at the cost of poor. ]

    Really?

    Aha, that settles it for me moron.

    I have no more comment for you (unless I see you insulting our bravehearts that is!).

    OaO Asithri

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  19. 1500 LTTE excreta maggots in the Vanni theatre in the beginning

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    i thought 3000+ going by the daily figures given by the government..

    you are saying that it is not correct ?

    ALso, we seems to have lost 100 soldiers and 800 are wounded badly. so, in effect we have lost the service of 900. Even defence experts are surprised at the governments own figures

    you don't care about it...

    you care only for your dreams of killing the people of this country

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  20. Asithri,

    Where are you ? Sitting in the AC room in front of computer and happily reading through the war news without any care for the fellow sri lankan

    why can't you go to Mannar and fight it out

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  21. Asithri,
    Well said bro.i am sorry to say this but LOL!!.when you have the time..check this guy peters responses in the latter part of the previous page..only if you have the time.Pls dont waste your time posting responses to his comments

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  22. my shadow,

    "drag on the war at the cost of poor"

    OK; let me assume that you are genuinely concerned about SL and its people.

    There are only 2 options we (SL citizens) have.
    1. war
    2. surrender

    Peace is not an option, it is an end product. If there are shortcuts to peace, there would be peace everywhere. Can you live in peace with a serial killer in your house? For a drop of a hat he will KILL; he will want all your valuables, etc. else he will KILL. After getting everything he wants, he will KILL for fun.

    What do you recon we should do; wage war or surrender?

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  23. MosheD

    [Sweeter than all the Easter bunnies and eggs!!]

    Now now...despite that I love it, we will not go into that kind of discourse involving our primeval and carnal pleasures...at least not in this blog shall we!

    Greets bro…hope you had a good Easter…I certainly did.

    LMSSAO!!!


    OaO Asithri

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  24. Asithri,

    Where are you ? Sitting in the AC room in front of computer and happily reading through the war news without any care for the fellow sri lankan

    why can't you go to Mannar and fight it out

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  25. my shadow,
    Your comments tell us that you have not bothered to read previous posts.PLs read them in FULL.We cant reinvent the wheel on each page.why have i not seen your posts during the mavil aru attack?

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  26. Greets OaOA.

    Its always encouraging to hear from the Great Scorpion.

    TC.

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  27. What do you recon we should do; wage war or surrender?

    ***

    I will share the power with tamils. I will give them a federal setup

    Average Tamil don't need war. Average Sri Lankan don't need war.

    Only Hwakish war mongers like you need war.

    I will share power with them. Allow them to LIVE and let us LIVE
    Let's us don't make this beautiful country full of blood

    buddha did not preach this. Buddha said non-violence

    are you a buddhist ?

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  28. Asithri,

    Where are you ? I still did not hear from you ?

    Is your room AC not working ? or your computer not working ?

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  29. Srilankan

    Read it...truly hilarious!

    This LTTE excreta maggot "peter" certainly seems to love hanging around in this blog as obviously he seems to have figured out that his own Tamilnut and other such crap-holes are just not telling the truth judging by how the LTTE mf's in the Vanni are losing territory!

    At least I will say the bugger is intelligent to that degree!

    LMSSAO!!!

    Greets to you brother...

    OaO Asithri

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  30. My shadow,
    We are all agreed with you that some kind of political solution is necessary(which has to be decided by all parties)..but this is a grossly simplified picture to say the least..Remember there are 1000's of tamils overseas who really want us to divide our country like "peter" for example in the previous post.So once we have a federal solution..lets say for arguements sake.. what is to stop these LTTE tamils overseas from demanding more..its just a question of get everything you can attitude.Remember the good northern citizens are just pawns in this game controlled by the overseas LTTE diasphora.

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  31. Myshadow

    [Asithri,

    Where are you ? I still did not hear from you ?]

    Now now, calm down…you are beginning to sound like one of my ex-gf! LMSSAO!!!

    [Is your room AC not working ? or your computer not working ?]

    No, my brain just shutdown as I had an overdose of “Moronic-sprin” by reading your posts!

    :)) :)) :))

    OaO Asithiri

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  32. Asithri,

    you can't give a direct answer to my questions ? is'nt ?

    how can you answer ? you just get brain washed by this hawkish government ?

    Anyone questioning you can only be an LTTE ? not anyone else ?

    this country can only have LTTE and non-ltte ?

    why are you so obbssed with ltte ?
    even i don't that that much obssession

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  33. srilankan,

    some kind of political solution is not what this country needs. that's what APRC gave and no body cared

    Kosova got its independence, Tibet is seeing unrest and in this scheme of things what will happen to sri lanka ?

    so, even now you have a threat to this country's division

    The advantage for LTTE is GOSL is not giving enough solution. You can't play with Unitary Mode. if you keep saying Unitary, we will not get anywhere.

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  34. Asithri,
    Thanks bro.Keep up the good work.Always remember that this LTTE filth want to be the sole representatives of SLankan affairs overseas.So everytime they hear of a successful sinhala boy overseas it drives them mad with jealousy.The 1948 mentality.

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  35. Asithri,

    Please go to Mannar and fight it out. That is the way you can show the whole world that you are truly patriotic

    Any way i am a agent of LTTE or agent of Ranil, i don't need to prove how partiotic i am

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  36. my shadow,

    "I will share the power with tamils. I will give them a federal setup........."

    Are you a bloody idiot? Power sharing or any other political stuff cannot stop the LTTE. The problem here is NOT the Tamil people; they are fine and friendly. The problem is the LTTE and it is the LTTE that tell the Tamil people what to do not the other way round. LTTE is a frankenstien monster out of control and it must be killed

    "buddha did not preach this. Buddha said non-violence"

    I'm not a buddhist but i know the history of SL which was a greater nation in the past than now which was ruled by GREAT BUDDHIST kings like Dutugemunu, Parakramabahu, Vijayabahu, etc. They killed MORE than all our leaders have killed when combined (JRJ, RP, DBW/RW, CBK, MR). You cannot rely on Buddhism/Judaism/Islam/Christianity for everything; you have to be practical for greater good. Having done so you can be religious. ALL our great leaders in the past followed this. They never put the cart before the horse.

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  37. So everytime they hear of a successful sinhala boy overseas it drives them mad with jealousy.The 1948 mentality.

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    srilankan what victory we got ? please explain ?

    as i said before can't you guys see any reason, should i be always and LTTE when i raise questions

    bro - please see my previous questions in this same blog

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  38. my shadow,
    This question is not really for this blog..I think keeping our responses somewhat focused on defense matters is wise since none of us are experts on constitutional law..

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  39. myshadow

    Why is it that I get this unmistakable feeling that I am dealing with a LTTE supporting woman/chick with this "myshadow" handle?

    Your writing (more like I should say the incessant nagging) appears familiar...reminds me of some "tigress" kind I met in another forum not long ago...

    Anyway, let me answer one last question from you:

    You asked:
    [why are you so obbssed with ltte ?]

    Answer:

    I am obsessed with the LTTE to the extent I am longing to see the last filthy cesspit terrorist mf liquidated with extreme prejudice as given what they have done to my beloved motherlanka, they don't deserve less!

    There, you have my honest answer...delivered in true OaOA style!

    LMSSAO!!!

    OaO Asithri

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  40. "ALso, we seems to have lost 100 soldiers and 800 are wounded badly. so, in effect we have lost the service of 900. "

    Again, we did not lose the service of 900 men. Most of these are p3 casualties meaning some already rejoined battle.

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  41. "Please go to Mannar and fight it out. That is the way you can show the whole world that you are truly patriotic

    Any way i am a agent of LTTE or agent of Ranil, i don't need to prove how partiotic i am"

    This bugger is brainraped.

    In one sentence he/she/it says fighting in the mannar front is patriotic. in the other sentence he/she/it says he/she/it need NOT prove his/her/its patriotism!!!!

    Also all his/her/its previous posts were AGAINST the war. Now he/she/it says go to Mannar and FIGHT!!

    We have a maniac here who is so inconsistant.

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  42. My shadow,
    The victory of being educated and have the ability to mix with important people overseas..which these LTTE tamils think is exclusively their domain.The victory of influencing politics overseas ever in a very very small way(very important),the victory of sending some much needed foreign exchange to our besieged country,the victory of helping less fortunate people in SLanka with foreign exchange,the victory of sponsoring a poor "achchi" whose family has been butchered by the LTTE..do you want me to go on?

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  43. Myshadow

    One last word for you-

    I have no issue with Tamils and in fact am truly elated that today we have the beginning of a "political solution" springing up in the East, under the banner of TMVP.

    I will say this again:

    LTTE does not = All Tamils

    Therefore our war is not against Tamils, but Tamils who have decided to be terrorists!

    Now don't talk to me about your "grievances" as being the cause for some Tamils to becoming terrorists, as I for one will NEVER buy into it. In my view, Tamils in SL were one of the most privileged minorities ever found on this planet and if any Tamils were underprivileged, then the same proportion of Sinhelas, Malays, Moores, Burghers too in SL was underprivileged and it had nothing to do with the race/ethnicity.


    OaO Asithri

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  44. OK, patriots it's time for me to vamoosh...until later!

    Have a good day/night....

    PEACE

    OaO Asithri

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  45. srilankan,

    but i don't think this bitch has the state of mind to understand.

    Unfortunately many sri lankans don't think. they listen to their traditional favoruite politicisns and take everything they say as correct. they have essentially subcontracted thinking to POLITICIANS!!!!

    what a tragedy?

    patriots do not get bogged down to politics. if MR says we cannot win the war and stop everything and get ready to surrender, we will screw him. if prabakaran by some magic stops destroying SL and starts rebuilding it and killing all anti-SLs, we would support him.

    if rev. kasippu joseph gives up LTTE fun, we will embrace him as we hold no hatred towards them.

    OUR ONLY CONCERN IS SL AND SUSTAINABLE LAW AND ORDER IN SL. And we think from our brains not from politicians/NGOs/IC/homosexuals, etc. brains.

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  46. moshe,
    Thanks for your input and fully agree with you about the law and order issue.I know what your saying.I dont think he/she is really a bad person..i suppose if he/she is convinced we dont mean them any harm..this will hopefully spread and convince other similar minded people also..even if this is a somewhat forlorn hope.Moshe..i did not get much sleep last night(was on previous blog)..so i am logging off keep up the good work!!

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  47. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IcytP3i68&NR=1

    i went through this video/news by Swarnavahini

    MIG's want fly this low. if so LTTE can bring them down right? I have seen helly flying on LTTE areas which can be seen very tiny i mean in far high in the air.

    DN Your comment on this pls
    picked from earlier post

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  48. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIrhMy9-u2g&feature=related

    Reality. scared to see, how danger our people fighting against LTTE.

    watch and play.

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  49. "In Mannar and Vavuniya fronts, SLA frontlines are in some places 20km ahead of the places they were 1 year ago."

    Dear DefenceNet,

    Does the above comment include a "typo"? There have been LRRP claymores 20km into Vanni, but transfer of frontline is questionable. Perhaps you could clarify by giving location before and location now.

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  51. peter,

    There used to be pockets of LTTE in south mannar (below A14). Ltte was kicked out of south mannar and now FDLs are pushing into North Mannar.

    So I guess that's 20km right there.

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  52. KBS said...

    peter,

    There used to be pockets of LTTE in south mannar (below A14). Ltte was kicked out of south mannar and now FDLs are pushing into North Mannar.

    So I guess that's 20km right there.

    Dear KBS,
    Thanks for your reply. But the official frontline, as recorded at time of CFA was north of A14. This particular road was being used by SLA for transport between Vavuniya and Mannar.

    That is not to say that there were no LTTE units operating south of A14. LTTE's DPUs has been operational far further down south than Colombo.

    Question was regarding frontline shift.

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  53. peter,
    some formations of 58 division in Madhu sector are now positioned roughly 20kms from where they started the advance around 1 year ago.
    However we did not mean that it's 20km from all starting points. Note the words "SLA front lines are in some places 20km ahead of the places they were 1 year ago." in our previous comment. It's actually not a typo anyway.

    The distance SLA has advance varies. But that doesnt mean SLA didnt advance at all. This was our reply to my_shadow's comment "now they are fighting. we could not advance."" which is false.

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  54. Mi-24s are fitted with 12.7mm guns which has an aimed range of 2 km. But when fired from the air towards the ground, the range is much higher. When a HIND travels over 2.5km, SAMs used by the LTTE cannot hit it.

    The way tigers fight (as shown in videos and as described in articles) HIND's gun/guns can be very useful.

    Why can't HINDs and/or other copters spray bullets on visual tiger movements below?

    I may be missing a point. Can anyone please answer.

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  55. Crimewatch
    Mig27's fly lower than the Kfirs and will go below even 500ft if that's what's needed to achieve the objective... At lower altitudes the high speeds of these jets makes it nearly impossible to be shotdown with conventional AA guns... Even a Manpad operator will have only a few seconds to get a lock on before the jet flies over the operational area

    The hinds will not go in such low altitudes unless it has the backing of larger fighting group since it's slower speeds makes it vulnerable to ground fire. When large scale battles erupt you might see hinds in more CAS roles since then it will have the support of ground troops and maybe even from jets

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  56. DefenceNet said...

    peter,
    some formations of 58 division in Madhu sector are now positioned roughly 20kms from where they started the advance around 1 year ago.

    Dear DefenceNet,

    Could you please give the starting location and current location of one such formation?

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  57. peter,
    Please read older posts and comments. You are merely repeating questions already answered.

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  58. @moshe dyan
    I not to sure, but it could be that there is a lack of liasons officers and by the time the hinds are airborne their oppotunity is gone.

    I think 2.5 kms is out of range from the air. At that angle and height the accuracy will be comprimised.

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  59. Dear DefenceNet,

    While you may be a "military man", I don't think you are familiar with the Vavuniya West region. Just to give you an example, Uyilankulam Crossing to Madhu Church point-to-point measure about 20km. Likewise Kallikulam village to Palampiddi village are around 20km. I hope that you are at least familar with the village names.

    Please don't think that I am attempting to belittle you with this commnent. I am only putting locations in to perspective.

    Of course, the SLA may have advanced 20km. In which case the starting location and current location of one such formation would be very helpful.

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  60. Our forces should be on high alert at this time due to the rains because the mechanised units are sitting ducks.Theruwan saranai to all our forces

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  61. DefenceNet,
    In the previous post someone said that the LTTE are booby trapping the bodies of dead cadres.Why is the army sacrificing their men to recover these filthy bodies and placing themselves in harms way?.

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  62. Asithri,

    This is exactly what I believe...

    I have lived in the Pukkaland before and since the LTTE armed struggle. I know what went on. Perhaps most of the pro LTTE people who blog here know only one (false) side of the story. That is why they don't understand. Little point arguing with the ignorant. That is why I maintain 0R to them.

    You said...

    "In my view, Tamils in SL were one of the most privileged minorities ever found on this planet and if any Tamils were underprivileged, then the same proportion of Sinhelas, Malays, Moores, Burghers too in SL was underprivileged and it had nothing to do with the race/ethnicity.

    Compare this to my posting on a previous blog…

    ”[The Tamil people] were not discriminated against any more than any other race were to be. The percentages speak for themselves. If any, it was the Sinhalese who were let down; again the percentages speak for themselves.

    Regardless of one’s ethnicity, or indeed qualifications for a job, if one does not have a letter from their local MP (or some other politician) it is difficult to get the job. This is more to do with corruption than discrimination and it happens across the board, it is not directed at any individual race.

    [The armed struggle] could only be described as a whim of an individual who had a personal vendetta against the Sinhala race.”

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  63. pukkalanka,
    Agree with both of you.Anyway it is too late for us to get into this.We have to ensure our country is saved from these brutal ruthless sadistic barbarians so that the next generation will have some peace.

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  64. In fact, strictly speaking, it's not the "next generation" but the one after. The "next generation" is growing up in dysfunctional societies where the men and women are away from home on long term "trips" to the NorthEast and the MiddleEast respectively. The healthcare and education that they are afforded with is also minimal.

    Therefore, I think it would be more appropriate to claim that the war is being fought for the "generation after next".

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  65. "Search operations are underway to locate two persons who were reported missing after they went to bath at a river in Kitulgala. Two bodies were recovered from the river earlier."

    Don't you guys have wells?

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  66. moshe,
    my 2 cents,
    moshe goto basics...I am sure they are capable of what you said..however they are given a specific task to perform so spraying bullets on random ground targets although possible will be digressive(timewise-your giving the scheduled target more time to disappear)to some extent and what substancial benefit will that achieve considering the fact that hinds are not used on a daily basis..ie infrequent operational runs.I suppose if you have 10 hinds operational daily its a different matter

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  67. peter... it's not a case of wells mate :) the kelani river basin has a low water table and wells need not be dung that deep to get ground water,,, just that when some people get used to bathing in the river...it's sort of a tough habit to break...
    especially if they like to wash clothes and have a chat while doing it sorta thing...

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  68. "Search operations are underway to locate two persons who were reported missing after they went to bath at a river in Kitulgala. Two bodies were recovered from the river earlier."

    Don't you guys have wells?

    no..no .. these are not Sri Lanken people. infact they are from Uk and canada respectively. they come here to take a bath in one of our beautiful rivers. becouse their toilets in their home country is under cleaning this time of the year by people like you.

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  69. my shadow,

    "will Rajapaksae brother given them the needs ? they will fly to USA and happily settle there as they are the citizens of USA, not Sri Lanka"

    So what is your suggestion? Stop the war and give LTTE two thirds of our country, because people are dying? Remember that those people are dying to make sure that the future people can live in peace.

    "Even defence experts are surprised at the governments own figures"

    Yes, at how low they are.

    "I will share the power with tamils. I will give them a federal setup"

    I'm sorry, but I have to say this is bullshit. Will you give half of your house to your neighbour if he threatens to kill you?

    You say you read, but seems to me you know nothing about the current situation. All you got is a jumble of bits of information you've picked up from various sources. And talking about casualties, we are suffering far less casualties than in the previous operations carried out against LTTE, anybody who says casualties are high doesn't know much about the things that have happened in this war

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  70. Tissa Hami,

    People who have used a toilet would know that it is not a place for bathing.

    Ranil,

    Thanks for the info. I just think it's slightly "foolish" to jump into rivers, given the torrential rain. Perhaps, it isn't raining as heavily down south?

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  72. "Don't you guys have wells?"

    We had, but not any more. The LTTE Pink Tiger units (newest SF regiment of LTTE) have been carrying out some covert ops to steal all the sinhalese wells in the south. They have been very successful at it. Nobody knows why this was done though, but that doesn't matter since most of the LTTE ops are pointless. But every home in tamil eelam has at least two wells due to this extraordinary achievement, and they don't have to depend on the racist GoSL for water any more..

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  73. Peter
    kelani river is not in down south but in western province and it originates from central mountains...
    there has been fair bit of rain and yes the river is little fatter than usual and flows also bit faster...
    the problem with some folks is that they over estimate their skills... and fast flowing currents tend to change the river bed quite often so what was safe and shallow yesterday might not be the case today... mostly this is the case with visitors to the respective areas...local and foreign tourists who feel quite maverick after a few shots taking unnecessary chances...
    And this is not unique only to SL :)

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  74. my shadow loose some weight, maybe you should stop eating all the macdonalds you buy with your LTTE and NGO money

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  75. ppl enjoin with tamilnet.tv
    hha. job less

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  76. Greetings to all the patriots,

    Well there seems some elation on the faces of LTTE supporters.

    My guess these tiger supporters are not living in sri lanka in the first place to experience things first hand. They might be getting some half baked stories in the west assuming things..

    I still would say to all these gentlemen please come to colombo where most of the tamil population is based and see for yourselves. I mean not for a few days but quite bit longer and walk through the streets and experience yourself. I used to meet a lots of tamil friends around colombo So that is how I know some facts.

    The propoganda machines of tigers are really really good on how to twist the real situation in the country and show the wrong picture in the west, especially the europe and us.

    Then again will these gentlemen be open minded see both sides of the story???

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  77. Chamal, Sri lankan, asithri, moshe and all other patriots who love their motherland!!!

    Guys its useless explaing things these tiger supporters. If these guys are open minded then it is possible to have a decent exchange of views. I dont see any of them fitting into that calibre.

    And I dont blame most of them because they would've grown up with this mentality.

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  78. Nobody loves war, Everybody wants to live a peaceful life. But this Ltte cancer has to be get rid of.

    I think many in this blog would agree with me.

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  79. Ranil,

    Once again, thanks for the info. For most of us Tamils, any place below Mathavachie is "down south".

    Chamal,

    In some places, esp in areas surrounding Iranaimadu, people have been able to dig along the craters created by SLAF bombs and turn them into wells. This has cut down the expense of digging a well by almost 30%.

    Senkadagala Sinhaya,

    LTTE and NGO really are omnipresent. I like the idea of a demo infront of local MacDs.

    CriMeWatCh,

    Indeed. Light entertainment from time to time is good for health.

    Riyaz,

    I wouldn't mind a few months in Colombo, if you gov is willing to provide the business class air fair , five stars hotel accommodation and private coach it afforded to a few individuals from the UK last month.

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  80. Family of Sri Lanka massacre victims doubt justice

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    Iran, Sri Lanka Discuss Expansion of Ties

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  81. you see guys,

    Now one guy called peter comes out with an honest answer. appreciate it brother.

    I live in wellawatte and my neighbours are tamils. I dont say life is black and white, and no place in earth you can call that.

    But unfortunately the sri lankan ground situation is so much twisted and presented in the west(US and Europe).

    I am a muslim and I am worried over eastern muslims,but it doesn't mean that each community should have a seperate state. Thats bull shit. Brother we have a very small country and it cannot be let to be divided. We have to find ways where we can live together. Please dont try to equate tamils and ltte. but then again are u willing to give an ear to me peter.

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  83. riyaz,

    Completely agree with you there.

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  84. My shadow,

    I just cannot understand what you are trying to say.

    As moshe dian mentioned, we have only 2 options. What is your choice? Share power with tamils. By that, do you mean the LTTE? That will be the day when you can share power peacefully with that kind of terrorist group with it's history of extreme violence.

    Let me tell you. I am from a very ordinary family and have suffered and seen the sufferings of the ordinary Sri Lankan. (I only left my country 2 years back and so don’t tell me I am sitting in front of the computer and enjoying the war!!) And to make it more interesting, I am MARRIED TO A TAMIL. Who doesn’t have an ounce of faith in the LTTE terrorists and who wants an end to this annihilation of Tamils by the megalomaniac piribaharan. So don’t tell me you are representing the rights of Tamils.

    I do get this feeling that I am wasting my words with the likes of you, cause as Asirith has mentioned, you do fit the profile of an active Ranil supporter or maybe one of these NGO morons who are reaping he benefits of our motherland for the promise of dollars!! Because given the kind of history we had, HOW CAN YOU EVEN REMOTELY THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE PEACE IN OUR COUNTRY? With the way things stand? With the kind of war LTTE has waived against us for years!!!!! What's the hell do you mean man?

    Yes, the masses are suffering. The cost of necessities have risen unbearably and I cannot just imagine how the ordinary are managing. I fully empathize that! Then again, tell me? Are we supposed to continue having peace negotiations with the LTTE and let them empower themselves with more power and arms and then again have these sporadic fights with us where our soldiers are killed for absolutely no gain? Like it happened all this time? You re complaining about the deaths of the solders. What about the time when they were killed for absolutely no gain? At least, we have some hope and goal which seems to be closer than when we started?

    This war CAN be won!!! And with the right kind of leadership (I don’t know whether it is the right kind with regard to the rest, but definitely yes with regard to war!!) this definitely can be won! And to have peace, we need to win this and wipe out the LTTE before proceeding to address the concerns of the minority. It is really not realistic to hand over part of such a small country to such a small minority and we are not that type of people who do discriminate people like some people. Discriminations exists ALL OVER THE WORLD!! Separation is NOT the answer to this and no one in the world thinks so. (with regard to their own issues. Though interested parties may so preach with regard to another's such an issue!!)

    You are complaining about roadblocks, traffic jams etc. Once again I wonder whether you are worth responding to??

    The Tamil ealam is a DREAM!! We shall see who will have the last laugh! Having said that, the country belongs to all the law abiding citizens regardless of the ethnicity. As I mentioned, discrimination is everywhere. Have to fight against this and improve concepts of law and equality which cannot be done with the likes of LTTE and with arms. Having said that, the isolated incidents of discrimination that Tamils may face now is so very minor in Sri Lanka compared to most countries in the world. Go to Singapore which is supposed to be such heaven. They sometimes don’t stop their buses for the darker skinned people like us!! The ones with the Chinese origins. Discriminations still exists against blacks in the US, despite all the advances that they have made and despite all the preaching’s against the rest of the world for democracy and equal rights!!

    What happened happened! These things have happened all over the world. We need to move on. We need to learn from our mistakes!

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  85. Riyaz,

    I have also "lived in" very many parts of Colombo over the years. I also have to admit that while in Colombo, I was fully aware of what I spoke and whom I spoke to.

    Tamils that make "donations" to the LTTE do not simply do so on the basis of what TamilNet.com or Puthinam.com publish as news. People are not that naive (perhaps I am showing excessive faith in humanity here).

    However, the Tamils who do reside in the west have contacts with their relatives/friends who may be spread across a swath including but not limited to Colombo, Vanni and Jaffna. "Donations" are often calculated based on the needs of the time as well as "historical significance".

    "Brother we have a very small country and it cannot be let to be divided."

    This is an argument that has been put forward for the past 30 years, and unfortunately this particular stance has only ensured the progressive destruction of the island as a whole.

    Had the Malaysians used a similar argument against the "independence" of Singapore, that part of the world may have also ended up like "us".

    More than the "right" and "wrong" of power devolution, the question what is the "need" it?

    If we are to stay on par with the emerging states such as India, we need to be able to resolve the ethnic conflict amicably. If either of the sides can "destroy" the other by military means, then it would be great. But despite what my heart says, I have to admit that only devolution of power will lead the rebuilding of mutual-trust which will eventually lead to "true" development.

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  86. Riaz
    I was passing through Kathankudi in 2005 and I didn’t like what I saw. There were people from Saudi in a hotel in Batti on the way to the Muslim towns in EP.This sect they are promoting is going to cause our next problem. I think it called Sufi? One of my best Muslim childhood friends in Kandy is no more in good terms, year by year his is distancing himself from me. In time to come we may have to fight suicide bombers from that sect because their disagreements with us will lead to that. We hope all fair minded Muslims will keep out of this. I too see Saudis in Kandy as well, in the most unusual place the’ pub’ in Kandy. They too live double lives in London, a month a go we lost two of or good looking eastern EU girls because of their harassment and they are the hypocrites of the worst kind.

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  87. My Shadow

    welcome to the blog !

    happy easter to all bloggers :)

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  88. Thushanthi:
    'I just cannot understand what you are trying to say.'

    @Thushanthi

    i think what My Shadow is trying to say that he doesn't like to see the war going on

    most people don't want to see the war going on for years & years :(

    interesting times are ahead for SL !!

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  89. Peter

    ‘Had the Malaysians used a similar argument against the "independence" of Singapore, that part of the world may have also ended up like "us".’

    You can’t draw a parallel here with Malaysia and Singapore. If that is so how come the million or so Tamils in Malaysia didn’t not ask for their own separate state, where the Tamils are officially discriminated by their Bhumi.. policy? This is because the Malays are rigid with the minorities, have a no nonsense policy. Unlike in SL,they have draconian powers given to them by the ISA(internal security act),where any agitator will never see the day lights, if arrested.HW have no relevance there and this was why Chelvanayagam was chased out from those countries and now SL is paying the price for having him in SL.Chinese found it too far to go to Taiwan or any other country of their origin, but your people have Tamil Nadhu if you are not happy to live with us, but we will never divide or give any kind of control to any minority.By the way there is a sizeable minority of 45%,made of Chinese and Tamils living happyly in Malasia because the respet the rights of the majority. We all have problems in SL,common to all communities and the Tamil community can’t take a monopoly of our misfortunes to exploit the sympathies of the western countries. I don’t forgive your community for running us down in West after escaping the ‘ethnic conflict’ doing well and still tormenting that poor country because it wasn’t that conflict that really made you leave, but the economic opportunities waiting for you as economic migrants in the west. If you people were true victims, then you could have fled to closet India and not to Wembley or Wimbledon in UK.

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  90. LKWOOD,

    thanks. Though, I got this feeling that he is complaining that we are in to war at this moment in time.

    No ofcourse not! Other than the 'mudalali's' who profit from this no noe wants to see a war in one's own country. All of us cannot wait to see the end of it!!

    However, we cannot stop it at this stage. That is my openion. We need to wage war against the LTTE and defeat them before coming to any settlement with regard to the issues.

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  91. can anybody confirm these numbers ?

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    distance between Vavuniya to Jaffna is 142 KM

    The Distance between Kilinochchi (North Eastern) and Vavuniya (North Eastern) is :
    73.1 kilometers (km).
    The approximate travel/road distance can be around 84.06 km to 91.38 km


    http://tinyurl.com/26o726

    The Distance between Kilinochchi (North Eastern) and Jaffna (North Eastern) is :
    52.94 kilometers (km).
    The approximate travel/road distance can be around 60.88 km to 66.18 km


    http://tinyurl.com/2zlecc


    please have a look & maps are included

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  92. LKDOOD

    Oops!! Sorry about that mate!!!

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  93. Monday, March 24, 2008
    Situation Update

    The Sri Lanka Army recovered 11 bodies of Tigers killed in the Parayankulam Forward Defenceline readjustment. The Sri Lanka Army claims it killed 52 LTTE cadres in this fight. LTTE sources claimed 55 Sri Lanka Army personnel were killed. Yesterday alone the Army confirmed killing 25 cadres while losing 4 of its men while 25 others were injured. The fighting continues despite bad weather and flooding.

    The Army says it collects LTTE bodies whenever they can without endangering the life of its troops. There is evidence that the LTTE withdraws whatever remains of its cadres it could find and abandons these inside their control area. 9 such bodies were recovered recently.

    The breakdown in the LTTE's defenses is becoming clear as small groups of civilians from Kilinochchi and Mullaithivu had started surrendering to the Sri Lanka Army after a perilous journey risking life and limb. By last week, a total of 107 civilians had surrendered to the Army for the month of March alone.

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  94. Just a thought.......

    There are millions of Sri Lankans,

    If RW said “There is no point of fight against LTTE, useless war, stop war,
    Lets start talking with LTTE”

    These people simply follow their leader’s opinion.

    If RW said “We must fight against ruthless LTTE and then address the tamil grievances”

    These people quickly change their mind and follow their leader’s opinion.

    Unfortunately this is the world we are living in. This is applicable not only to UNP but also to other political parties as well. I believe majority of the Sri Lankans are of this type. There are very little people in Sri Lanka, who have their firm views on national problem, whatever there leaders say. This is a major obstacle to defeat terrorism.

    Whoever our president RW/MR/Chandrika/DB Wijethunga, if he is doing right thing with determination, and according with our firm beliefs, we will with him.

    This came into my mind when I read some previous comments and the recent talks issued to the press by a retired military commander (who may wish to enter politics).

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  95. India not in favour of signing int'l refugee law: official

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    'We are better off without the LTTE' : S C Chandrahasan <<< interview >>>

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  96. Tigers' deep sea mines pose new threat to Sri Lanka India-e-news

    The Tamil Tigers' deep sea underwater capability demonstrated off the eastern Sri Lankan coast Saturday might have added a new dimension to the military conflict, The Sunday Times said.

    The navy could be facing a new challenge in the coming months if the Tamil guerrillas continue to attack Sri Lankan vessels with sea mines or human torpedoes, the weekly paper said.

    A sea mine sunk a Sri Lankan naval Fast Attack Craft (FAC) off Nayaru on the Mullaitivu coast at about 2.25 a.m. Saturday. And although six men were rescued in the vicinity, the fate of 10 others was not known, it added.

    Survivors said that they saw no Tiger vessel in the vicinity either with the naked eye or electronically and that there was no confrontation or firing. Hence the suspicion about a sea mine being the cause of the deadly explosion.

    The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), however, gave a different version of the incident. The LTTE said there was a confrontation between the Sri Lankan Navy and a suicide squad of the Sea Tigers in which 14 navy men were killed and one FAC was sunk.

    The LTTE further said that three Tigers, including a 'Lt. Colonel' and two women cadres, all members of the Black Tiger suicide squad, were killed. The names of the dead were announced.

    The Sunday Times, quoting unnamed defence officials, said the Sri Lankan gun boat might have been destroyed by a human torpedo.

    The other speculation is that LTTE suicide divers might have fixed a mine on the hull of the ill-fated vessel.

    It was possible that an LTTE boat had dropped off the suicide squad and the latter, armed with the right underwater equipment, could have been lying low for hours waiting for an opportunity to strike, a military expert told IANS.

    Assuming a sea mine sunk the FAC, The Sunday Times said: 'The extensive use of such mines can impede naval movement in the high seas. This is not only confined to patrolling the seas. More importantly, the navy provides the bulk of the security cover for movement of food and military supplies to some 40,000 troops and policemen deployed in the government-controlled Jaffna peninsula. They are transported from Trincomalee to Kankesanthurai.

    'In addition, the vast majority of troops and police personnel are also escorted at sea by the navy.'

    The exact location of the incident had not been given by any of the parties but the paper said that it was clearly in the deep sea, which is worrying. The LTTE might have learnt to carry on such covert operations in the deep sea, generally considered safe for shipping.

    The Sri Lankan navy too had recently laid mines to deter LTTE ships. The chief of the Chennai-based Indian Coast Guard had warned Indian fishermen that if they strayed into Sri Lankan waters, they could be hit by sea mines.

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  97. AFP

    Heavy fighting reported in Sri Lanka

    1 day ago

    COLOMBO (AFP) — Ferocious battles raged in Sri Lanka's embattled north over the weekend as security forces tried to break into territory held by Tamil rebels, the two sides said Sunday.

    Government forces smashed through a bunker line of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) inflicting heavy casualties on the rebels, the defence ministry said.

    It raised the number of guerrillas killed in fighting since Saturday morning to 22 from the earlier figure of 15. The ministry said military losses also doubled to four dead on Saturday.

    But the guerrillas said they resisted the military push and inflicted heavy losses on government forces.

    The pro-rebel Puthinam.com website said the Tigers had killed 55 troops and wounded another 120 in Saturday's fighting.

    The heavy fighting erupted on Saturday, hours after the Tigers sank a navy fast attack craft off the island's northeastern coast, leaving 10 sailors missing believed dead.

    Sri Lankan war planes bombed suspected Tamil Tiger facilities Saturday inside the area they control in the north of the island, the defence ministry said, adding that there were no immediate reports of casualties.

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  98. Peter,

    So, what is your solution to the conflict in SL?

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  99. Kevin

    "You can’t draw a parallel here with Malaysia and Singapore. If that is so how come the million or so Tamils in Malaysia didn’t not ask for their own separate state, where the Tamils are officially discriminated by their Bhumi.. policy?"

    The separation of Singapore from Malaysia is, I fell, a valid example of autonomy for "nations" within "small states".

    As per why Tamils in Malaysia do not ask for separate state, it is entirely their own decision. For example, married couples can get divorced in the UK. Some couples decide to do so and at times go through heavily taxing and lengthy procedures to get divorced. Just because Wife A asked to be divorced from Husband B, not every wife goes around asking for divorce.

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  100. very good question Parakrama

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  101. Crimewatch
    My friend whose job is defence related said that only solution to avoid the sea mines is to move the ships into the deep sea, away from the shore and should these terrorists plant sea mines in the international shipping lanes out of our territorial waters, then these terrorists may violate the international maritime law, resulting in a war crime. It will be difficult to mine the whole ocean around us and he too says the fishermen from TN may be involved in dropping these mines in our sea. Better to check most of the fishing vassals. Other option is to have small vessels going ahead of the convoy as they are in a better position to observe the floating mines.

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  102. Thanks LKDOOD!

    Peter, I'm still waiting!

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  103. "Peter,

    So, what is your solution to the conflict in SL?"

    I advocate the Interim Self Governing Authority (ISGA) put forward by the LTTE is a viable medium during which both parties to the conflict can negotiate and compromise on a "final solution".

    The main trouble spot in that there are fringes on both sides that view negotiation and subsequent compromise a "appeasement".

    Most Sinhalese I have been able to converse with have been outright opposed to the ISGA on the belief that it could lead to LTTE declaring independence. Similarly, Tamils are opposed any short of what the ISGA proposes on the belief that things could return to the "good old days" when the likes of Jaffna Lib could burnt out at will with no impunity.

    You may have noticed that both sides oppose one "solution" or another "based on belief" which arises mainly due to mistrust. Sinhalese don't trust Tamils to not declare independence, and Tamils don't trust Sinhalese to not "gulp on a bit of arrack" and go on rampages.

    As the ISGA is only a 5years long process, it will not allow the LTTE sufficient time garner international support and declare independence. At the same time, during this "test period" Sinhalese could also be expected to be at their "best practice". Overall, I think the 5 years would provide enough medium for both sides to interact, build bridges and propose something that could be the "final solution".

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  104. @ kevin

    u have a point. thats the great idea, since the war is getting heating up even in rain ha

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  105. There are some sever grammatical errors in the above post. I hope you guys understand my PoV.

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  106. "My friend whose job is defence related said that only solution to avoid the sea mines is to move the ships into the deep sea"

    Kevin, I don't think friend is aware of why the Dvoras are there is the first place. If they are all moves out into the "deep sea", how will you "protect" the habors?

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  107. Peter,

    "Sinhalese don't trust Tamils to not declare independence" - This is not an issue between Sinhalese & Tamils, it's between Sri Lankans & LTTE.

    Right or wrong, LTTE has been classified as the most ruthless terror outfit in the world. No government in this world is willing to negotiate with terrorists, SL is no exception.

    So, forget about negotiating with LTTE, what's your next option?

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  108. pov : point of view

    Note: this post is for newbies including me

    :)

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  109. "This is not an issue between Sinhalese & Tamils, it's between Sri Lankans & LTTE."

    Whether you like it or not, it is Tamil money and Tamil lives that keep the LTTE "ticking". However, we have two foes here, and I don't think there would be any "real" difference even if we referred to them as A & B.

    Right or wrong, LTTE has been classified as the most ruthless terror outfit in the world.

    Most countries have listed as a "designated foreign terrorist organisation", with varying levels of restrictions on their citizens' associated with the LTTE. For example, in the US it is not "illegal" to be a member of the LTTE. In Sri Lanka LTTE is not even listed as a "terrorist" organisation. Therefore, your above statement is a mere opinion.

    No government in this world is willing to negotiate with terrorists, SL is no exception.

    Again, SL Gov has not listed the LTTE as a "terrorist" group. Thus negotiating with the LTTE should not be a problem.

    So, forget about negotiating with LTTE, what's your next option?

    In that case you will have to "neutralise" the LTTE by "other means". I suppose that the ongoing conflict is envasiged as one possible mean. The upcoming two years will bare testament to that.

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  110. Peter,

    you said,

    "Right or wrong, LTTE has been classified as the most ruthless terror outfit in the world.

    Most countries have listed as a "designated foreign terrorist organisation", with varying levels of restrictions on their citizens' associated with the LTTE. For example, in the US it is not "illegal" to be a member of the LTTE. In Sri Lanka LTTE is not even listed as a "terrorist" organisation. Therefore, your above statement is a mere opinion."

    if it is a matter of opinion, what is yours? are they or aren't they a terrorist organization?

    you bring up a couple of interesting points. but before this conversation goes any further let put our cards on the table eh?...

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  111. I subscribe to the following definition of terrorism:

    "Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations"

    As such, in my opinion, LTTE is not a terrorist organisation.

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  112. Peter,

    there is no point talking.
    I rest my case even before presenting.
    you win. I can't argue with that.

    thanks for the reply.

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  113. Kevin,
    What can i say..your comment is a masterpiece.:):)very well said bro very well said..
    OK so what do we do..within a period of 20-30 yrs let 1000's of singhalese immigrate to any RICH country in the west and then decide for themselves that they are being "discriminated" against and start an armed rebellion..what a load of crap!!.In a simialr mammer 1000's of muslims can immigrate overseas and decide that they need a seperate country.IF tamils can do it why not muslims,singhalese etc.Kevin i dont know international issues well but if the thaamil malays did that that govt will kick all of them out and back to TNadu.these guys are not worried about "human rights".Look at the behavior of thaamils in France..it looks like they really dont want to "offend" the french govt after that mortar escapade with the french ambassador.Peace will be possible in SLanka only after the EXTERMINATION of the LTTE.I hope commander pilliyan will help us.

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  114. "Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations"..so what was the kebbithigollawa maccacre..a tea party?
    is this bugger mad?

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  115. snakeVI

    You are wise. No point!! Absolutely no point!!

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  116. what were all those bus bombs and the wanton killings that have taken place over 30 yrs such as bus bombs?.

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  117. Snakevi,

    No probs!

    Others,

    A lot of people have migrated from many origins. Yet not all have promoted "separatism".

    It is a calculated risk based on the needs of time.

    The fact that the Tamils of Eelam have taken the unprecedented step that has not been taken by Tamils or many other communities elsewhere is a direct reflection of the SL gov itself.

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  118. Its not just the singhala..the innocent tamil people as well..did you guys read the article where a bomb in colombo took out a tamil kid whose father has bought new shoes for her..what did this poor tamil man do to deserve the death of his grand daughter?

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  119. "what were all those bus bombs and the wanton killings that have taken place over 30 yrs such as bus bombs?"

    I had given the definition I subscribe to as, I repeat:

    "Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations"

    In case you didn't know we have been at war for the past 30 years. For most part, SL gov has been imposing "emergency rule" due to "military activities" and "national security".

    Bus bombs are no different to claymore bombs, air bombs or suicide bombs. Every bomb is a bomb regardless of the target being SLA / LTTE/ Sinhala "civilians" / Tamil "civilians".

    If I were to term Kebbithigollawa as an act of terrorism, I would have to do the same for Navali Church and so on.

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  120. Kevin,
    The way i see it.the future of SLanka will be decided by the peace loving tamil community living in SLanka not those living overseas.

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  121. listen men i am 57 yrs old.How old are u?

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  122. LTTE have released the pictures of Black tigers who were participated in the Mission of Destroying the DVORA FAC in Nayaru Sea....

    http://www.pathivu.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1206370494&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

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  123. Peter

    "If I were to term Kebbithigollawa as an act of terrorism, I would have to do the same for Navali Church and so on."

    You are correct buddy ..this is what the reason for the LTTE targeting Civilians in south ... every boms are bombs ...

    Don't forget the Allaipitty massacre...Vankali Massacre and every thing thats done by the GOSL ... the war is not only for the tamils its for all srilanka .. don't think only ppl living in north will be suffer by the war ..everyone have to suffer coz of srilankan ...

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  124. Little bit too late but...

    Peter,

    "Sinhalese don't trust Tamils to not declare independence, and Tamils don't trust Sinhalese to not "gulp on a bit of arrack" and go on rampages"

    First of all, are you suggesting that LTTE is the sole representative of Tamils in Sri Lanka ? cos we have never negotiated with the Tamils, we have always negotiated (we tried) with the LTTE.

    From Thimpu to Sudumalei and from Hilton to Norway, from 81 to 2003 how many times have we tried to negotiate with the LTTE to come in to a settlement? And what did the LTTE do during the talks ? who breached all the agreements ? who breached the trust ? who smuggled in arms during the talks ? who killed innocent civilians living in "boarder villages" during talks ? who killed intelligence operatives ? who walked out of the "peace talks" ? Gvt of SL or the LTTE ? Did you learn history of SL from Tamilnet ?

    And do not try to go behind a definition to explain us what LTTE is, im sure people who visit this blog knows what it is more than you do. Talking of definitions, why wouldn't you apply a similar theory to the ISGA, even if we forget about everything what LTTE did in the past why on earth do we have to give an interim administration to them when

    1. There is no agreement on a final solution

    2. There is no agreement on a time line/date to talk about final solutions (in fact LTTE has refused to even touch the subject of "core issues")

    3. LTTE is not the sole representative of the people living in North and East (since the request covers the entire area, not just the administration of Tamils)

    Do you, for a minute, think that LTTE came to talk in good faith ? LOL ...dont waste blog space

    On what you have crapped on Tamils in Malaysia (now there they have a genuine case but again no claim for a separate state) if they EVER decide to take up arms against the gvt or Malays or whoever... the "struggle" will not last long ;) Its not their choice, it's their understanding of ground reality.

    On "gulp on a bit of arrack" and go on rampages"
    Can you explain what you exactly meant by that since you have used the word "sinhalese" in general

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  125. reo.mag.forever,
    very well said..yes why did some parties who were tamil terrorists previously join the govt?..

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  126. Guys,

    Sorry for the delay!

    Peter,

    "However, we have two foes here, and I don't think there would be any "real" difference even if we referred to them as A & B." - Are you crazy? Of course it makes a difference. If we put Tamil people & LTTE together and label them as foe "A", that means we are fighting against Tamils. This is NOT the case. We are fighting against LTTE who happen to be Tamil but NOT EVERY TAMIL IS LTTE. LTTE is not sole representative of Tamils e.g. Karuna.

    "Most countries have listed as a "designated foreign terrorist organisation", with varying levels of restrictions on their citizens' associated with the LTTE." - Most countries would put you in jail if you are caught raising money for LTTE. If you are caught raising money for Cancer Research (a charity) you don't go to jail. This means raising money or supporting LTTE in any other way is regarded as supporting terrorism, which is a crime. Welcome to the real world!

    "Again, SL Gov has not listed the LTTE as a "terrorist" group. Thus negotiating with the LTTE should not be a problem." - This shows how serious SL is about peace. The only reason why LTTE hasn't been banned is that SL wants to achieve peace. If LTTE is willing to lay down their arms and talk, then we will talk. However, as long as they continue to terrorise, we will not talk.

    People, please don't fall into the trap by pointing out terrorist activities of LTTE, they will somehow try to justify their actions.

    Peter,

    The point is that SL has not been tagged as a terror outfit by any nation in the world where as LTTE has been. So, unfortunately, the only terrorist between the two sides is LTTE. Don't try to say "then how about this massacre and that massacre", you are only trying to justify your actions. But you have failed as most nations have already tagged you as terrorists.

    The bottom line is that LTTE is a terrorist outfit, we do not negotiate with terrorists.

    This blog is for Sri Lankans. LTTE are not welcome here. You have admitted that you are LTTE. Have you no shame? Why do you keep on butting into our affairs? We don't talk to LTTE and will never do so, so get lost.

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  127. Srilankan

    ‘The way i see it.the future of SLanka will be decided by the peace loving tamil community living in SLanka not those living overseas’

    Your right! We must looking after the loyal Tamils in SL,make them feel secured and keep the influences of traitors living abroad stirring up problems for us in SL.We also know that there are decent Tamils in west who want to comeback and live in harmony with us and we must welcome them back and we also must tie the legs and hands of pseudo nationalist of our kind, who couldn’t careless for national harmony. No way we will give in to separatist politics of any quarter and we must ban all parties of religious and racial origins and names.

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  128. Srilankan
    sorry for the bad grammer as I am in a bit busy now to spend much time.

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  129. Kevin,
    Many thanks for your great comment.I have to say that is it nice to read your comments.Kevin its OK mate.I have to say that in order to counter this overseas LTTE threat of " the singhala chauvenistic buddist govt violating tamil rights" for the next 1000 yrs we need to build up our peace loving Slankan community(muslim,tamil,sinhala etc)overseas.Many thanks again for your comments

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  130. peter,
    There is no war between Sinhalese and Tamils. But there are people who try to create one for their advantage and there are people who try to show the world that there is such a thing going on. We call them asshats.

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  131. DefenseNet,
    Why are we risking the lives of our troops and recovering dead cadres whose bodies are booby trapped by the LTTE instead of just dumping them in a pit and burning them?

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  132. Reo.Mag.Forever,

    The "I" in ISGA denotes "interim". Hence, it is a "final solution". I had only stated that the implementation of ISGA could provide the necessary medium for negotiation on a "final solution".

    Parakrama,

    "We are fighting against LTTE who happen to be Tamil but NOT EVERY TAMIL IS LTTE. LTTE is not sole representative of Tamils e.g. Karuna."
    E.g Americans fighting in Iraq referred to as Americans despite widespread disapproval amongst Americans to the Iraq far.

    "Most countries would put you in jail if you are caught raising money for LTTE. If you are caught raising money for Cancer Research (a charity) you don't go to jail. This means raising money or supporting LTTE in any other way is regarded as supporting terrorism, which is a crime. Welcome to the real world!" How many countries are there in the world? Of them how many would put you in jail for raising money for LTTE? Could this number be referred to as "most"? As I had said earlier, in USA for example it is not "illegal" to be a member of the LTTE. Similar is also true for Australia.

    "This shows how serious SL is about peace. The only reason why LTTE hasn't been banned is that SL wants to achieve peace. If LTTE is willing to lay down their arms and talk, then we will talk. However, as long as they continue to terrorise, we will not talk." So SL gov wants to negotiate? As soon as SL soldiers put down their arms, LTTE will do so as well. May be at the same time if you insist. But honestly, I can imagine the LTTE laying down its weapons will the SL soldiers continue to wield them.

    "The point is that SL has not been tagged as a terror outfit by any nation in the world where as LTTE has been. So, unfortunately, the only terrorist between the two sides is LTTE." So it has been applied as universal law?

    "The bottom line is that LTTE is a terrorist outfit, we do not negotiate with terrorists."

    "The only reason why LTTE hasn't been banned is that SL wants to achieve peace."

    Foot-in-mouth?

    Preaching to the converted, the simple gospel!

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  133. This is my first post here. Hope I can have some fun and discuss something worthwhile.

    Whatever you call them (SLDF personal or Terrorists), I think the dying of our own civilians is a great tragedy. And it is indeed sad to see a long obituary list every morning in all the newspapers.

    But I see that LTTE has to be militarily neutralized to have peace in Sri Lanka, as they won't settle for anything less than a separate state.

    However, we need to have a mechanism to make sure that another situation like that gave rise to the LTTE will not rise again.

    For this, GOSL needs to do very much more.

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  134. DefenceNet,

    Good to see you again! I was on the phone to a friend in Kilinochchi and he said that he could hear the tanks of SLA's newly established mechanised infantry rolling-in. Perhaps it is the formation that advanced 20km into Vanni. May be they have done the extra 30km to Kilinochchi in a "blitz". Could you please confirm?

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  135. "Americans fighting in Iraq referred to as Americans despite widespread disapproval amongst Americans to the Iraq far." - But American army does not claim to be the sole representatives of American people.

    "How many countries are there in the world? Of them how many would put you in jail for raising money for LTTE? Could this number be referred to as "most"?" - By most I mean those countries where LTTE has set-up base.

    "As I had said earlier, in USA for example it is not "illegal" to be a member of the LTTE. Similar is also true for Australia." - So, can you raise money openly for LTTE in USA & Australia?

    " So SL gov wants to negotiate? As soon as SL soldiers put down their arms, LTTE will do so as well. May be at the same time if you insist. But honestly, I can imagine the LTTE laying down its weapons will the SL soldiers continue to wield them. " - Sorry, SL laying down weapons is not an option. We do no negotiate with terrorists. For example, IRA gave up arms, but British Army didn’t. We don't negotiate with terrorists.

    "Foot-in-mouth?" - Here's an example:

    "Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations"

    LTTE bombs Air Lanka flight killing not only Sri Lankans but also foreign people. By your own definition this is terrorism. Therefore it has been applied as universal law - LTTE are terrorists.


    Let me ask you this question again - You are LTTE and we don't want to talk to LTTE, so what are you doing in this blog? Have you no shame?

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  136. DefenceNet,
    Is it true that a F-18 fighter squadron from the LTTE Aircraft carrier vilupulaaai praphaharan has launched an attack on colombo?

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  137. "Let me ask you this question again - You are LTTE and we don't want to talk to LTTE, so what are you doing in this blog? Have you no shame?"

    Paying the price for our ancestors' mistake of allowing Vijaya and his boat-load onto our shores

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  138. Sri Lankan,

    "The way i see it.the future of SLanka will be decided by the peace loving tamil community living in SLanka not those living overseas."

    I disagree up to an extent. In the context of a future election, this will probably be true. But the Tamil diaspoara will have some clout in determining what the Tamils living in Sri Lanka want.

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  139. parakrama,
    Very well said.hahahahaha:):).dont waste your time.

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  140. Rover,
    Lets wait and see.But i agree to a certain extent with you.We needto look into this issue of duel nationality seriously after this is over

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  141. Peter,

    " Paying the price for our ancestors' mistake of allowing Vijaya and his boat-load onto our shores"

    Are you a Wedda? Then you must be the first Wedda to be a blogger.

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  142. Rover,
    Very well said :):).hahahahahaha

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  143. "Are you a Wedda? Then you must be the first Wedda to be a blogger."

    Nope! I was a "boater" from West Bengal. Vijaya was the 2nd one. We then went about inbreeding like rats to create the "majority".

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  144. Sri Lankan ;) , thanks, but I was confused.

    I hope LTTErs are now not saying that they were in SL before the Sinhalese.

    Blatant lies such as these are the reason for the LTTE to not get any freedom even after fighting for 30 years.

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  145. "Blatant lies such as these are the reason for the LTTE to not get any freedom even after fighting for 30 years."

    I wonder what reasons there are for the "WeeraSooryas" not being able to neutralise the LTTE during 30 years of fighting.

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  146. defencenet. guys why wasting time .. try better explain this to a wall or a brick but not a hardcore LTTE assliker... the super powered god force bata slipper gang is slowly dying (defence.lk claims are not that acuurate they may be exaggerated figures but confirmed sources say arnd 10 pink,blue purple cubs perish per day). Vavuniya hospital has a serious problem in keeping these dead bodies due to lack of proper refrigeration facilities..until the icrc arranges the transfers... guys ask from a front line veteran and ignore the norway asylum seekers words... probably DN can add some more abt this....

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  147. "defence.lk claims are not that acuurate"

    No "patriotism" = no "nibbana". Shame!

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  148. petara goiya... FYI TN is the most accurate news source in the entire universe...
    If u r civilized, pls at least stop insulting other religions... (if civilized only otherwise u cn do wut every he he .....)

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  149. Rover,
    This LTTE scum are trying to get their EELAM while at the same time living overseas.The best of both worlds..back to 1948..so our laws should be like the laws the canadian govt impose on citizens of SLanka who want to immigrate to Canada if you know what i mean or like british/australian laws that have a points system.
    Attack_is_the_best_Defense,
    I know exactly what you mean.That is the problem of the LTTE.Vp can explain this problem to the families of the dead cadres and why he provides only saline bottles for them as medicine.

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  150. "FYI TN is the most accurate news source in the entire universe"

    May be you can crawl back in

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  151. srilankan,
    "Why are we risking the lives of our troops and recovering dead cadres whose bodies are booby trapped by the LTTE instead of just dumping them in a pit and burning them?"

    We only recover the bodies only when it's feasible for us. For example, if the presence of LTTE snipers is detected, SLA would not risk all to recover the bodies. Bottom line is that its not a primary objective to collect dead bodies.

    peter,
    "Good to see you again! I was on the phone to a friend in Kilinochchi and he said that he could hear the tanks of SLA's newly established mechanised infantry rolling-in. Perhaps it is the formation that advanced 20km into Vanni. May be they have done the extra 30km to Kilinochchi in a "blitz". Could you please confirm?"

    Still on about that 20km thing eh? Let us make things easier for you. We lied the first time the post did include a typo. Actually SLA has not advanced 20km. It should be corrected as 20 inches.
    (PS In fact we did have a post mentioning starting and current (current at time of post) positions of 6 brigades of 57 and 58 division. Of course you did not see it. Anyway our last input regarding this matter. Couldn't care less about what you believe.)

    "No "patriotism" = no "nibbana". Shame!"
    When you run our of facts to post, you tend to get religious. Please dont, as this will only make us delete your comments. Keep in my several of your racist remarks have still survived deletion.

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  152. http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20080323_02

    Great ultimate heroes ..... from pink anthony brigade .... trying a new battlefront tactic....

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  153. Rover,
    Many thanks for your comments.its 1200 pm here.will be back tommorrow

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  154. Sri Lankan,

    "This LTTE scum are trying to get their EELAM while at the same time living overseas.The best of both worlds..back to 1948.."

    This they won't get, at least not in the sense that VP wants it. But we need to be smart.

    "so our laws should be like the laws the canadian govt impose on citizens of SLanka who want to immigrate to Canada if you know what i mean or like british/australian laws that have a points system."

    Our current laws are actually strong enough to keep out the riffraff in that we simply don't give citizenship to people who are not indigenous to SL. But preventing people who were born here wanting to come back, will be a problem, unless it is proven that they have done subversive acts against the democratically elected government.

    So the major supporters of LTTE (not the people who gave some money because the LTTE threatened their brethren who still live in Sri Lanka) can be prosecuted and punished under the current judiciary system. I think we need to take a moderate line in this, so that we don't antogonize most of the Tamil diaspora.

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  155. G'night Sri Lankan, see you again soon.

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  156. DefenceNet,
    Many thanks for your input.Theruwan saranai.
    Attack_is_the_best_Defence
    Thankgod you pasted that link.We need to inform the army commander about this new tactic of the LTTE pink walrus brigade.Cant be a tiger brigade..because the tigers will sprout wings and fly in 2 halves even when decapitated ahhhh!.What is this tactic called.?"lie on the floor till you are shot dead and once dead engage enemy after rebirth"?

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  157. Relax Guys, The South Africans are on their way to sort this MESS!

    “The South African Government says it is encouraging warring parties in Sri Lanka to get back to negotiation table”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2008/03/080324_southafrica.shtml


    But I don’t think they will help all of the Tamil community…Non LTTE people were refused entry to this event .

    “When the leader of the Tamil Democratic Congress R Jayadevan after obtaining prior permission from one of the organiser K Kunabalasingam and proceeded to the venue, he was confronted by the well known hardcore LTTE men and they refused him entry”.

    http://www.tamilaffairs.com/news/ltte-seminar-ethnic-conflict

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  158. Dear All,

    It's that time of the year again.

    There is a day-job to return to from tomorrow onwards. I have had much "fun" reading and posting on this blog during the long holiday weekend.

    Sincere apologies if I had caused any ill feelings by using "nibbana" and "moddaya" in my comments.

    While I appereciate your passion for "Lakdiva", I don't think this short experience would change the direction of my GBPs.

    All the very best in your heated arguments. At least you have your very own "defence expert" to guide you to Kilinochchi and beyond.

    A friend once said: "The next best thing to Tamil Eelam is the absolute destruction of Sori Lanka."

    So, see you in Tamil Eelam, if not, see you in hell.

    Yours,
    "Peter virra Ponambalam"

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  159. @peter

    come back when you can

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  160. shyam and lkdood have posted this link.

    i cant understand tamil. but the second photo says lot of things about the youth of wanni.its very far from the youth of shyam or peter or etc.

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  161. GUYS

    Some intel stuff

    "Peter" has Changed into "My Shadow".

    "My Shadow is actually Peter's new user name.

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  162. Who is responsible for the abductions in the south?

    "The provincial manager of Ceylinco Insurance branch in Vavuniya was rescued by the police within one hour after being abducted by a pistol gang of the LTTE yesterday (24).

    Seven members of the LTTE abducted the manager when he was getting ready to leave after attending a wedding ceremony.

    On receiving information, a team of police officers took quick action to arrest four members of the LTTE who were abducting the manager.

    Two motor bicycles, a 9 mm pistol and a hand grenade were also taken into custody."

    http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=10100

    Fortunately, police were able to arrest the terrorists. Otherwise it would have been another abduction of innocent Tamil civilian by SL armed forces.

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  163. can't we use the rain as a weopon I mean our fughter and copters have all weather capability right, maybe when the LTTE caps are all drenched we could dry them up by using some nice and warm napalm.

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  164. Hemantha

    ‘The provincial manager of Ceylinco Insurance branch in Vavuniya was rescued by the police within one hour after being abducted by a pistol gang of the LTTE yesterday (24).’

    Hemantha,if what you saying is true, this goes to prove that Hon Lalith Kothalawala is not a tiger supporter, as claimed by people in the past.Lalith's company is a big firm that should be even have a representation in the unlearned areas. He too have Tamil managers and employee which should be the thing to do. I am glad that this happened and this employee in correct hands now.

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  165. Kevin,
    "Hemantha,if what you saying is true, this goes to prove that Hon Lalith Kothalawala is not a tiger supporter, as claimed by people in the past."
    Nope, it doesn't prove any such thing.
    Let's consider this scenario. Wasantharaja was a tiger. Once he was the head of the Rupavahini cooperation (Stupid Chandrika did that). If we go with your logic, all the people working there during that period should be tigers. (or in reverse, Since many people working there weren't tigers Wasantha Raja must also not be a tiger)

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  166. Defnet,
    This pic of the "Fibreglass Mine"on Iqbal Suntimes post anyone know how he dickens it works ?

    Peter, ya "Wedda" huh ! So ya still wear the da "Amuday" ? If ya do please dont bend over son ! It's gonna stinkup da place know what I Mean !

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  167. 2,500 Tigers killed since January 1

    LINK

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  168. DefenceNet,

    This is a post by specialforce on LNP.

    The ltte leader was ambushed thanks to a hound trained by the commando regiment specializing in jungle tracking in a military setting...

    the hound was badly wounded with its handler in the crossfire between the special forces team which took it and the ltte team.

    the ltte team was a part of a penetration team highly trained and newly deployed to create havoc in govt controlled areas.the hound has been recommended for a meddle of Honor for its act.

    the best part of the incident was that two ltte cadres who were hiding in the jungles surrendered to the military following their failed mission.they laid bare many information the MI and it was a treasure trove in a sense...

    the condition of the hound is now stable...


    Any comments?

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  169. LKDOOD ;

    According to the SLA articles more than 5000 KIA in last year and more than 2500 KIA since January ...And the MI told the media the LTTE having only 8000 carders with them ... but now there is only 500 including VP and his son and the senior members... so why don't the SLA march in ..why are tey still waiting ....?

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  170. Three cheers for the forces !

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  171. .why are tey still waiting ....?

    @shyam

    good question

    maybe there are lot of people still ready to fight ??

    i don't undestand

    DN, others

    is this 2500 number true ?

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  172. Now this is the type of good-stuff that we need to accelerate the end of LTTE mf’s:

    [An LTTE van laden with explosives, believed to have been either left behind or parked in the jungles intending a huge blast against the Security Forces was spotted in the Ampara region by Special Task Force (STF) troops.

    The explosives were found hidden in the Dolphin van carrying two different number plates; (NP JZ 4782) on the front and (NC GC 4273) on the rear, and the explosives were connected to a detonating device for easy detonation when the troops recovered it.]

    Grrrrreat!

    OaO Asithri

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  173. Now this is the type of even better-stuff that we need to acquire & secure to accelerate the end of LTTE mf’s:

    [It (Strategy Page) added: “The Air Force has managed to overcome the loss of its maritime patrol aircraft to an LTTE raid late last year. The growing number of captured LTTE fighters have provided location information on many LTTE installations in the North. The Air Force is confirming these locations and bombing them. ]

    Wow! How very cool!

    A very low tech solution to compensate for when the ultra high-tech solution is temporarily down!

    I love it!

    LMSSAO!!!

    OaO Asithri

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  174. In great haste so shall only post the above two...catch you patriots later...

    Greetings to all my bros/sis...

    OaO Asithri

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  175. lkdood,
    "@shyam

    good question "

    It is a stupid question asked by an idiot.
    Around 30 years back LTTE just had few hundred terrorists. Last November LTTE said around 20,000 has become martyrs so far. If we follow the line of questioning of this idiot we can ask "How come they lost 20,000 since they just originally had few hundred terrorists?" You see how stupid this question is.

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  176. DefenceNet, guys

    From Asian tribune article on the Mech.

    "Brigade Commander Colonel Ralf Nugera said with confidence “our Brigade will reach Elephant pass and beyond as we have shock and surprises in store for the LTTE"

    link: http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/10188

    Do you think its a wise idea to send the mech in a break through drive to EPS?? haven’t we lost part of the element of surprises by pointing out EPS as a target??

    Or may be our lads are doing some counter int. to make the tigers harden and beef up EPS and then when the push comes.. bypass EPS in two flanking spears and encircle a big tiger formation??

    Your views please.

    Btw. Wasn’t Mech. Something Maj.Gen. Kobbakaduwa thought of??

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  177. Defencenet,

    If not sensitive enough, can you please tell us if we got the replacement for Beechcraft HISAR?

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  178. Thanks ares & SF.

    Sorry guys cannot resist my childish temptation....I suggested using K9 units in DN to track jungle trodding MFs.

    hemantha,
    nice numerical answer even to a stupid question.

    nemesis,
    did you read SF-3 blog on this (DN has the link)? that basically says it is risky to march to EPS.

    i personally think we should get EPS in a Normandy style landing heavily supported by the SLAF. Although there is no MSR through it now, EPS capture will,

    1. help neutralise LTTE positions in poonaryn and strengthen safety of Jaffna and Palali.
    2. actively encircle the Vanni LTTE MFs from all directions
    3. invite LTTE fighters for a big attack and harvest them like fish
    4. very long 122mm, etc. arti. reach into LTTE areas
    5. a massive morale booster for SLA and a deadly blow to LTTE

    I know it is VERY dangerous. But with air support it would be managable.

    Exactly 4 weeks to the 8th anniversary of EPS fall.

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  179. Mechanised infantry for EPS capture and First LTTE attempt at EPS with a bulldozer........some strange coincidence.

    But as it happened, RPG fire can seriously damage the machines. MI (mechan. infan.) should only be used for what normal infantry units do, faster though. Arti, shell, air support for them is a must.

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  180. Peter said...

    "Search operations are underway to locate two persons who were reported missing after they went to bath at a river in Kitulgala. Two bodies were recovered from the river earlier.
    Don't you guys have wells?"

    Hi Peter,
    The persons who died @ Kithulgala are innocent Tamil women. I think, they don't have wells as their wells were hijacked by Sinhala racists. Therefore, as the only available option, they took a bath @ Kithulgala, on the way to Home form a wedding ceremony.

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  181. The story of the army hound in Rivira newspaper.........

    Snowy , the army hound

    ****Open with internet explorer.......

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  182. TY Pulutta; great article.

    They badly need jackets and other protective gear.

    Instead of wasting millions on educating, feeding, medicating, etc. ungrateful LTTE supporting MFs it is better to invest in DOGS!!!! These units have a massive potential.

    Get well soon Snowy!

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  183. peter,

    The CFA may have said that A14 was the FDL, but LTTE did have a sea tiger base well south of A14 at Silavattura.

    But I guess that hardly can be counted in our talks about advancement into Wanni. Anyways, it's a great feat nonetheless (all LTTE bases cleared from South Mannar).

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  184. Heavy fighting in Jaffna FDLs
    Heavy fighting broke out in Jaffna peninsula when Sri Lanka Army (SLA) soldiers attempted to advance from its positions in Mukamaalai, Kilaali and Naakarkoavil towards forward defence lines of the Liberation Tigers, Sunday morning.

    But I didn't herd this news any ware else

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  185. @ Shyam
    Oh I too am severly confused. There is no way that the remaining 3000 cadres at the start of the year kicked conscripts into the frontlines.

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  186. Nemasis,
    Col Nugera's statement reminds me of some people in the army trying to make a name for themselves.I hope it is just bravado on his part in order to motivate his troops further.If not it is a very stupid idea since it will cause competition among the ranks which is the last thing we want.We have enough dead right now and must not subscribe to stupidity at any cost.
    The idea here is to take our own time within reason and make these murderous LTTE bastards "sweat" day and night when thinking about where the next army offensive should come from.Taking our own time hopefully will have the additional benefit of saving as many poor tamil kids as possible hopefully since we are expecting a flood of northern citizens into our areas as more and more areas are liberated from the tamil liberator?

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  187. Asithri,
    Bro..We have an imminent LTTE threat in peter ponnambalam.Did you know that he is making GBP???...Do you know what this is as i am clueless and make only humble SL rupees which is good enough for me?.

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  188. "Do you think its a wise idea to send the mech in a break through drive to EPS?? "

    Well Mech Infantry alone would not win battles. Even heavy armor is not invulnerable as we saw an year ago. Mech infantry needs to be coupled with other units to get the best out of their 'muscle'.

    "haven’t we lost part of the element of surprises by pointing out EPS as a target?? Or may be our lads are doing some counter int. to make the tigers harden and beef up EPS and then when the push comes.. bypass EPS in two flanking spears and encircle a big tiger formation??"

    This could be a psy op as you suggested. But since the statement was made in public, this would add to the pressure faced by armed forces to produce a major breakthrough. What we mean is that the general public after seeing such statement being made, will see the march towards EPS as a cakewalk while the reality is that it isnt. Then even normal delays will be seen as blunders by the armed forces.

    But we dont mean that Ralf Nugera is an unwise commander. He's one of the best the army's got and the man can make a difference.

    "
    Btw. Wasn’t Mech. Something Maj.Gen. Kobbakaduwa thought of??"

    Yes but back then we did not have enough resources to raise a full brigade of dedicated units. Mech infantry was formally raised under the coordination of Gen. Sarath Fonseka.

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  189. Asithri,
    Bro did you know that he is the only person allowed to make GBP??.Hmm ..Do you think the british army will launch a search operation if a black man mugs him on the streets of NW8?..

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  190. ///OFF TOPIC///

    Sri Lanka Army Mechanized Brigade in Action in the Jaffna Front Line

    http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/10188

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanized_Infantry_Regiment

    WZ551 armored personnel carrier

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WZ551
    http://www.sinodefence.com/army/armour/zsl92.asp

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