Fighting was reported along the Wanni defense lines for the past week where Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) fiercely resisted several SLA advances into their territory. Heaviest of these battles was reported in the general area of Parappakandal in Mannar district. After overrunning the LTTE frontline in this area one week ago, troops have been trying to move further into LTTE held territory towards Wanni heartland. Even though these attempts were met with heavy resistance, SLA was able to break through several LTTE defensive positions in this area after prolonged firefights. 5 soldiers have been killed in these battles and another 14 have been wounded. At least 15 LTTE cadres are confirmed to be killed and another 30 more are wounded. By yesterday, security forces had advanced as much as one kilometer into LTTE territory ahead of Parappakandal. Troops consolidating defenses in newly captured areas came under heavy LTTE artillery fire yesterday (09th) night. 6 soldiers were injured in this incident and were rushed to the hospital.
Pro LTTE media once again stated that the army offensive was "repulsed". This is completely false. Although there were occasions where the operations were temporarily halted due to heavy resistance, they were later resumed after regrouping and employing different strategies which best suited the situation. And it must be said that all these "offensives" are small group based attacks. So far there has not been any mass troop movement into Wanni.
Even though fighting has been going on for several months, both sides have not yet unleashed their full strength. LTTE has not largely exposed their hard core cadres to battle. According to military intelligence, their elite formations have not been seriously affected by the fighting and are largely intact. However it has been a different story for LTTE's mainstream units; they have undoubtedly suffered at the hands of the army. SLA too has several weapons they have still not used. Units of the Mechanized Infantry Division, which is the latest addition to the elite 53rd division, are yet to enter the battlefield. Newly raised 59th division is undergoing special training in the Weli-Oya sector. In addition to these, 3rd commando regiment too is now being retrained with long range surveillance (LRS) capabilities. In the meantime SLA has started yet another recruitment campaign; the first in year 2008. This time the goal is 15000 new recruits. If this goal is met, it would bring the army's total manpower close to 200000. Latest recruitment drive follows a a successful campaign last year (2007) in which more than 30000 personnel joined the army.
All above statistics point to one direction; heaviest battles of the 4th Eelam War are yet to be fought.
and pigs have been reported flying.
ReplyDeletethe boss,
ReplyDeletei rushed for my gun and had it raised to the darkening skies but have seen no pigs. It's definitely the last time i let my stomache do the thinking.
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ReplyDeleteDefenceNet
ReplyDeletethanks for the update...
It's great that SLDF is keeping tabs on LTTE's abilities and not take things lightly...
we should not allow these guys to gain upper hand at anything and we should try and minimize the casualties from our side by spending more time on proper planning on strategy...
SLDF seems to be doing a great job...let's hope when larger battles begin... we inflict much much more heavy casualties on our enemy and not take too much of damage in doing so...
LTTE is yet to use their top guns. you will see, what will happen, when the home-made MBML's are used by the LTTE.
ReplyDeleteLTTE can infitrate to any location. you can see how your rest of the MIGs are destroied by air borne commando attack.
When is this guy going wake-up.. I really started to enjoy the comedy drama by "the Boss".
ReplyDeletePlease keep him with out kicking out... I personally enjoy every comment made by him, because he has a very good future as a comedian.
I get a real "kick" by reading his comments...
same here. I really enjoyed the his comparison of shiva linga to artilary in an earlier post.(sad that he takes religion in the middle of defense making his own religion, a bad mark)...
ReplyDeleteLucky that LTTE had only single barreled artillery not MBRLs (imagine this guy's comparisons which make me ... sick)
Thanks DefenceNet, really appreciate your efforts and keep it up.
ReplyDelete"the boss", i think you have made a mistake, isnt it should be "airborne pigs" instead of commandoes??
Anyway keep up the good work of enternaining us, like to hear "jokes from pigs kingdom in wanni" once in a while.
Hey "sudda" screwed mind holders, you can only think of MBRLs and other sudda shits.
ReplyDeleteMBMLs (not MBRL) home made highly effective vepon. it is with 20 barrels and can extend to any number depending on the mounting vehicle. You will see what is really call "steal Rain"
Sinhala modayas, never even can think of.
An LTTE cadre surrenders - Kalmunai
ReplyDeletehttp://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20080109_06
Time for World Action and Intervention in Sri Lanka
ReplyDelete"The international community must immediately act to intervene in Sri Lanka, both to address rights and to find a sustainable solution to the conflict. Key actors such as the United States, United Kingdom and India must apply sufficient pressure to realize an effective ceasefire agreement. And while the government and the LTTE are clearly opposed, they should press for an effective nation-wide system of human rights monitoring. Human rights monitoring remains the key to tackling impunity and to reduce the cycle of violence. The absence of effective monitoring is used by both sides to the conflict to deny their involvement in grave human rights violations and hence the need to take any action to prevent such activities from recurring. This in turn degrades domestic mechanisms of protection still further. The counter insurgency strategy of the Sri Lankan government is likely to provide the environment for a further deterioration in human rights. Impunity for violations of human rights and humanitarian norms would fuel ever deepening cycle of conflict and a descent into authoritarianism.
LTTE Thwarts Mannar Attack, Kills 14 Injures 40 Sri Lankan SF
ReplyDeleteLTTE and the Sri Lankan security forces (SF) clashed in Mullikulam, Mannar area when SF tried to advance into the LTTE held area using heavy artillery and mortars, at least 14 SF troopers were killed while at least 40 SF troopers were wounded, according to the civilian sources in Mannar
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ReplyDeleteThere have also been a report of a fat pig living in fear in a bunker near Killinochi.
ReplyDeleteI just hope SLA will catch him alive. Wonder how they would torture the fat ugly prabha.
Looks like a blog inside a blog. LOL.
ReplyDeleteIt is a concern that most of the elite LTTE fighters are still in tact. Once attrition comes a critical point, LTTE will have no choice but to employ those elite cadres. Eitherway, we should not allow a prime opportunity to pass by. More time you allow, LTTE will find a way to smuggle arms and twist world opinion.
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ReplyDeleteWith man power and ammo shortage, it is incredible that LTTE is still holding up the defence lines. They are still resisting a grossly outnumbered army without rapidly losing the territory. I remember when we were at the losing end, it didnt take days for us to lose vast areas. During past operations, we lost months of gains in a matter of days. I believe things are much different now.
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ReplyDeleteWho the bloody freaking hell is the skunk "defenceline" posting Tamilnet type cesspit globs here?
ReplyDeleteI noticed that this bugger has no original thought or contribution other than posting pro-LTTE false reports here.
Either this bugger is a brain-dead LTTE moron (and there are many in the LTTE given the brainwashing that goes after a child is kidnapped) or he has cleverly decided to open his own pro-LTTE blog by pirating this blog. Eitherway, time DefenceNet took note and cut this bugger's donga down to size.
OaO Asithri
“Sri Lanka loses right to vote at UNHRC
ReplyDeleteSri Lanka has lost it’s right to vote at the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) and Minister Mahinda Samarasingha has sought a meeting with High Commissioner Louise Arbour to discuss the issue.”
-Daily Mirror
If true this is serious.
Please do not start flame wars.
ReplyDeleteRepeated offensive comments, racists comments and comments by nickname hacks will be deleted.
[home-made MBML's are used by the LTTE]
ReplyDeleteHome-made dildos for the sex deprived LTTE bitches cannot be considered a lethal weapon - in my humble opinion.
[it's true I think our freedom fighters have been able to hold onto land because they wear bathroom slippers, it is much less slippery that boots and easy to go the toilet with.]
I didn't think it mattered whether you wore boots or slippers when you squat at a Tal-palm tree...again in my humble opinion.
Man, the boss bugger has completely gone off his rocker! Wonder if the mf swallowed a minor dose of cyanide by mistake!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
hemantha:
ReplyDeleteI can sense that world opinion is turning against SLGOV. It is imparative that we finish LTTE with relative urgency. I think we are closer to the critical point where LTTE will have no choice but risk their elite cadres in the battle. I think they are buying time by holding SLA off and working very hard to turn the world opinion against SLGOV.
Enough entertainment for a long time...I am off to see a de-humourist.
ReplyDeleteOaO Asithri
Defencenet good job deleting rubbish posts.
ReplyDeleteFrom an Indian newspaper,
Speculation was rife here whether the wife of LTTE supremo V Prabhakaran arrived here on Wednesday along with a group of Sri Lankan refugees in the face of escalation of confrontation between the Tamil Tigers and Sri Lankan forces.
Police and media personnel rushed to the Mandapam refugee camp here after rumours said Prabhakaran's wife Madhivadhani reached the camp early this morning.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1144094
I'm doubtful, but if it's true, shows how confident Prabhakaran is in holding on to his territory.
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ReplyDeleteIt is time we crush those bastords LTTE forever. I think we should have no mercy on captured LTTE. After we get inteligence information out from them, we should execute them in public--Talaban style :) This include this moron "the boss".
ReplyDeleteGod save my boss.
ReplyDeleteHey Boss!
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be insulting VP's wife by calling her sm.VP will not take this likely? Perhaps you are part of the Vanni terrorist outfit that is braking up and you are in the faction opposing your sungod?
Boss has mentioned something very inmportant,somwhere above,about having a go at the MIGs.This is refering to they having a go at the MIG base at KATU with the minimum of people and I hope MI will make note and take precautions.Their people here are amazed,I was told how easly they have done with a few at AAB with a such a short time,meaning only three or four are required in future.
Onecountry,
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with you.
Asithri,
Please visit the blog more often.
fuck this. defencenet, I only posted the first post. The rest are written by impersonators using my nickname "the boss".
ReplyDeleteIf you see any post with grammar mistakes then it's not written by me.
Anyway;
Looks like SL is getting hammered on daily basis by the IC, I LIEEEKKK!
Pathetic SL is so shitscared they placed 1 SLA soldier per 5th meter in Jaffna. Hhahah
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ReplyDeleteDefenceNet,
ReplyDeleteIt is truly wonderful to see the blog is getting popular and better every day. But as we all can see, growth come with lot of other problems. I guess it is time to do some serious moderation before this site becomes a fool’s playground and undermine the real value of the site.
I use defenceNet as a news source, and I think lot of other people do the same too. I don’t use this site as a philosophical or a political platform, I don’t think any other do too. So in that case, I don’t think you really don’t have to worry about “freedom of speech”. Comments should add extra value to the original post, not undermine it.
It do not matter how tasteful the food is, if the restaurant always fill with noisy teenagers talking nonsense. So try to attract comments with real values (from every point of view), and if not don’t be scared to delete them or discourage them or warn them.
Hello the boss impersonator,
ReplyDeleteA Sinhalese friend of mine used to fancy Madhivathini too, sticking to the line you do, but with less intensity.
Do you think it is legal or immoral ? Is my friend committing an act of treachery, according to your constitution in Vanni?
Let him see that poster; I am sure he will love that.
The blog is a bit idle today. We need someone to play a role of clown, a bit.
Can any Tamil-speaking guy explain us what is going on here, please?
ReplyDeleteThanks in advance.
Sri Lankan air force chief escaped bomb blast
ReplyDeleteSri Lanka's air force chief, Air Marshal Roshan Goonetilleke, narrowly escaped being caught in a bomb blast in the capital on Tuesday. The media Wednesday quoted military officials as saying that the air force commander had passed by the site of the blast in the Fort area of central Colombo, just three minutes before a parcel bomb placed in a roadside public telephone booth went off.
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ReplyDeleteWhere is everyone getting the idea that LTTE are using inexperienced cadres in these frontline battles? Is this true? How could anyone know this?
ReplyDeleteDo the experienced cadres wear special uniforms? Where is everyone getting this idea that the "LTTE elite cadres are being saved" ?
Defenceline
ReplyDeleteTerrorists trying to blow up the Air Marshall points out to the fact that they are suffering under the AF operations. If this is true then the Air Force must be extra vigilant and protect their assets at Katu and Birthday parties, other celebrations,etc should be not allowed in that base, as the infiltrates to AB might plan a diversion, with in staff of the AB.These are crucial times, until the operations in the north are successful. Doing away with AM will not stop the operations as there are others good enough to carry things forward.
I love reading this site. Every dead cadre puts a smile in my face.
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ReplyDeleteshankar dead?
ReplyDeleteElite Police Special Task Force (STF) personnel gunned down an area leader of the Tamil Tigers at Saukade in Batticaloa this afternoon, defence sources said. The Tiger leader in charge of Batticaloa district, Shankar was killed in the shooting incident that occurred around 12.45.p.m, sources added.
ReplyDeleteSTF police commandos conducting a cordon and search operation in the area following civilian information shot the Tiger leader when he attempted to escape the cordon throwing a hand grenade. No STF casualties have been reported due to the explosion of the hand grenade.
According to Defence Ministry sources, Shankar was the person behind many attacks and assassinations carried out by LTTE after Sri Lanka military claimed that it liberated the whole Eastern Province from Tamil Tigers last year.
Meanwhile, Sri Lankan troops pushing into LTTE positions ahead of Parappakandal defence lines in Mannar, killed at least 19 Tigers including a female LTTE leader and wounding over 30 others yesterday evening, Defence Ministry reported. One soldier was killed while five others sustained injuries during the confrontations
Just ignore these LTTE posters. They come here to disrupt the defence disussions here and to annoy us.
ReplyDeleteJudging by the first few responses in this thread they seem to have succeeded. AGAIN.
Dear posters, don't keep falling into their trap. Ignore them and after a while they will get bored and leave.
I would much rather discuss about the content in defencenet's article than the opinion of "the boss".
defencenet
ReplyDeleteI think our army was 150,000 strong in 2006. In 2007 went recruited 30,000 more troops and this year we are going for another 15,000.
So this means our army is going to increase to about 195,000 by the end of this year right?
And if so, can we afford such a large army?
Earlier, I posted this in Defencewire too,
ReplyDeleteIn order to protect Dvora's from suicide boats...
How about fixing or Naval cadres carrying long range "Flame Thrower" on board Dvora's to counter suicide craft.
You can create a fire-wall within 50m distance if a suicide craft approaching you.
Once the flames were aimed at suicide craft, it would burn the hell out of the operators before even the claymores fitted to suicide boat explode.
Golden eagle,
ReplyDeleteIf we can afford such a large cabinet, definitely we can afford another 15000....ha ha ha
Many speculate whether Minister D.M.Dasanayake was the intended target in the JaEla blast.I think he was the actual target.We know that LTTE is very good in doing their homework.Minister D.M had being using his HI number Jeep over a long time.There is no way that the killers would have misidentified that.On the other hand Minister Jeyaraj (whom people say was the intended target) does not drive in a similar kind of Jeep.
ReplyDeleteThen the important question is why did they target this minister who does not have a major influence on LTTE activities.Several reasons can be possible.
1. To show the LTTE supporters and the diaspora that they have retaliated by killing a powerful government minister (Many of them are not very informed about the southern political leaders, for them a minister is a minister)
2. To boost moral of the LTTE supporters & fighters.
3. To create panic among the politicians and the civilians in south
4. To disrupt “Neganahira Navodaya” program by the government which comes under the Nation Building Ministry which D.M was a minister.
5. To use this as a bait – I wonder whether they want to target some high profile target amidst the funeral of D.M – we know Anamaduwa is not far away from the LTTE stronghold.They can easily send an aircraft or an attack team to take out a vvip in Anamaduwa than in Colombo.
Pls give me your opinions on this
Dulith,
ReplyDeleteGood analysis.. Keep up the good work.
We should certainly increase vigilance, intel gathering, and counter intelligence.
Cordon and search operations are a must.
We must also get away from the practice of letting go anyone who has an Identity Card. Now LTTE cadres carry their legitimate government issued identity cards to carry out attacks.
"To use this as a bait – I wonder whether they want to target some high profile target amidst the funeral of D.M – we know Anamaduwa is not far away from the LTTE stronghold.They can easily send an aircraft or an attack team to take out a vvip in Anamaduwa than in Colombo."
ReplyDeleteTrue, there is a strong possibilty of this nature of an attack. VIPs should refrain from attending the funeral
It is impressive to read about the naval warriors taking the fight into the jungles. It looks like our bad boyz of the seas have an insatiable thirst for the blood of the cowardly tamil tiger pussies and are going behind them even into the jungles...
ReplyDeleteCheck the article on www.navy.lk
KBS
ReplyDeleteThe LTTE are a pussy army that can only survive a fight when the opponent fights with one hand tied back. Similarly, these are illiterate podiyens strutting around like monkeys in a circus, calling themselves fancy titles. These cowards always run and leave the helpless cannon fodder to die. That's no wonder, since the example comes from the top. The big hyena hides 40 feet under and craps in his pants each time he hears a noise.
There are greater numbers of podiyens dying. But the SL forces are definitely going after the identified criminals and this fight will be over sooner than a lot of people think.
tropicalstorm,
ReplyDeleteThanks for answering my quesions beautifully.
DefenceNet
ReplyDeleteis shanker dead?
Guys,u ppl knw any pro LTTE blogs.If u knw v can giv dem a dose of dere own medicine !
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ReplyDeleteDulith,
ReplyDeleteDats a very gud analysis mate,the last point seems very important.And another possibility is a attempt to divert the attention away from protecting SLDF bases and key economic centers.Triggering a debate abt the security of VIP's is a gud way to do dat.
Pls throw these mad cows out, DNet please ban them
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ReplyDeleteDickwijaya
ReplyDelete"Lets keep him as our abnormal pet."
I don't know who you are but NO. If we keep responding to him ten the blog will be dragged into arguing about non-defence related matters.
LTTE is Lucky why bec of their are no such a foolish pigs like "The Boss" in LTTE. If so we would have finish this war by now. He may have Kicked out from the LTTE, poor pig is suffering from head injuries. Thats how LTTE treat casualties. Lets keep him as our abnormal pet.
ReplyDeleteYou right Goldeneagle. But Blogs get interesting when theirs something to argue.
ReplyDeleteGuys u r doin exactly wat dey want u to do !! Just ignore them. Lets focus on things wat matters and start sum constructive discussions here without wasting our time, coz i knw all u ppl r not postin here coz u dnt hav anythin useful to do !!
ReplyDeleteDefNet, you've said that the Mechanized Inf Div is the latest addition to the 53rd Div. How is this possible? You cannnot add on division into aanother. Isn't it a mechanised infantry BRIGADE that is to be added to the 53rd?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/9062
ReplyDeleteWe have a great forces. We should proud of our Navy. Read this and its a good analysis.
dickwijaya
ReplyDelete"But Blogs get interesting when theirs something to argue."
If it is defence related, then yes. If it is not defence related then this place will end up like LNP.
Don't take their bait.
"what will happen, when the home-made MBML's are used by the LTTE."
ReplyDeleteBoss, what's an MBML? -- Multi-barrel mother launcher?
"You will see what is really call "steal Rain""
I think it's illegal to steal rain.
"How about fixing or Naval cadres carrying long range "Flame Thrower" on board Dvora's to counter suicide craft.You can create a fire-wall within 50m distance if a suicide craft approaching you."
You can't create such a firewall in the open ocean. Even if it was possible it would have to be a kilometre long, or the suicide boat will just go around it. Also it would have to be at least 25m deep, or the suicide boat will penetrate it easily. American STABs used flame throwers for river patrol, but only against ground targets.
Maybe it stands for multi barreled motar launcher. High risk of injury I say.
ReplyDeleteDefencenet
ReplyDeleteI am very poor in my IT knowladge.But it seems the technology used in this blog is not adequate to handle the issues associated with higher penetration this blog has achieved.This is a suggestion to make this blog more effective and leave troublemakers out.
Can we introduce a registration system so that only the registered members can post comments.That way the administrator can monitor the members rather than the comments.Anybody going against the rules and norms of the blog can be easily shut out that way.
I would welcome the opinions of other bloggers who are concerned about the quality of this blog.
Can anyone shed some light on how big or small this Shankar LTTE terrorist is? I believe the SL govt forces killed another Shankar back in 2000/2001.
ReplyDeletedulith I agree.
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ReplyDeleteBREAKING NEWS!!!
ReplyDeleteThe LTTE wants the cease fire again!!! LOL!!! Too funny!!!
"http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080110/wl_sthasia_afp/srilankaunresttigerspeace;_ylt=At2rT7tWBHxKq2b3FzRWcWoBxg8F"
Here is the link again:
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/s/afp/20080110/wl_sthasia_afp/
srilankaunresttigerspeace;
_ylt=At2rT7tWBHxKq2b3FzRWcWoBxg8F
They want Norway back again too!!!
ReplyDeleteThe LTTE released a statement:
ReplyDelete"The LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) wishes to state that even at this juncture, it is ready to implement every clause of the CFA agreement and respect it 100 percent"
What a joke!!! LOL!!!
The LTTE also states:
ReplyDelete"We also request that Norway should continue with its facilitation role with the support of the international community"
noltte=peace,
ReplyDeleteThe only way of protecting SLN vessels from suicide craft is to use multi-barrel 30mm guns (as used in most CIWS systems) linked to better fire control radars/electro optical sensors. The single barrel 23mm, 25mm, 30mm weapons we use don't seem to have a high enough rate of fire to prevent suicide boats getting close. They all have an effective range of over 2000m, but obviously the suicide craft have been able to get close despite this, especially when multiple craft are deployed against a single SLN vessel.
Alternatively you can use naval variants of ATGM's, but it might not be effective against the very small/fast suicide craft, but should work against the larger Muraj type boats.
Interestingly, the US Navy is going to fit their vessels with a 25mm single barrel gun system to protect against suicide/small boats based on the Typhoon mount and Toplite electro-optical sensor, which is the same system used by the SLN. This is probably because the 20mm Phalanx CIWS is being replaced by the RAM missile system. However, they will also find that this system does not always work against very small/fast suicide craft.
The problem the SLN faces is that proper CIWS systems which can defeat multiple suicide craft are too big to be placed on FAC's (and also expensive). Building larger boats to accomodate them will compromise speed and ability to operate in shallow waters. So as long as the naval war is between FAC's and small LTTE boats, there will always be some degree of vulnerability to multiple suicide attacks.
Looks like the LTTE is swallowing their pride and looking to avoid further pummeling from the SL military.
ReplyDeleteNow the GOSL must weigh its options carefully. This could be a ploy by the LTTE.
This is the first time the LTTE wants a ceasefire from a position weakness.
I say let attrition and the naval blockade continue!!! Theirs knees are buckling, time to finish this mess off!!!
shay
ReplyDeleteThe SPIKE ATGM can be fitted on our typhoon mounts and with that we can take out LTTE crafts from 8km away before entering the fray. Thus giving us the advantage.
Plus the Mi-24/35 can also be fitte with the SPIKE ATGM.
This is very bad news about LTTE wanting to go back to a cease fire.
ReplyDeleteThe important thing from that article is that they seem to want to implement the "old" CFA! This means giving back captured territory to the LTTE.
This is a really big joke!!
If we are to think about any sort of cease fire the primary clause in it should be the absolute laying down of arms by the LTTE.
GE,
ReplyDeleteIts true that the SPIKE missiles can be fitted on Typhoon mounts. However, will it work against something as small as a suicide craft? The suicide vessels are also very fast (presumably over 45-50 knots if they can catch up with FAC's). Tanks don't move at that speed, so an ATGM like SPIKE might not be able target something so small and fast moving.
It would probably work against the larger Muraj boats. However, the bigget problem is the suicide boats which are responsible for most of our losses.
Or, they are preparing to justify a big bang after the 16th..
ReplyDeleteshay
ReplyDeleteAn LTTE suicide boat is about the size of a tank. So the SPIKE ATGMs can hit them. They have been known to hit fast moving IFVs, APCs and other military vehicles too.
If we aim and fire the ATGMs from a sizable distance it will lock on to the target.
kiri,
ReplyDelete"Or, they are preparing to justify a big bang after the 16th.."
you are correct,
but i think its before 16th.
the suicide attack which killed 100 SLN also happened while LTTE was talking about the Need of Peace.
DNet,
there is a rumor that schools going to close for three months.. is it true???
This could also be a ploy by the LTTE to buy them some time to sniff out traitors within their ranks and recooperate.
ReplyDeleteWhatever their real motive may be, this the first time I can remember that the LTTE has requested a cease fire from a position of weakness.
Just a crazy idea..
ReplyDeleteHow about having, say, two very small remote controlled boats filled with explosives that can be deployed from boats during an impending attack? Provided that the suicide boats are spotted these small boats can be operated to ram in to the suicide boats?
We can go for a ceasefire.
ReplyDeleteBut a "new" cease fire.
Primary clause. LTTE must disarm.
Come on guys, the request to go back to the ceasefire is purely a PR exercise. It has nothing to do with the military situation, it is just to show the Government in a bad light to the International Community. If you look at Tamilnet, it is a well prepared strategy. Not sure how effective it will be, but the Government should be really proactive in countering it by publicizing how ineffective the CFA was.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine, one day, there is peace in Sri Lanka, Prabhakaran is dead, the elite cadres of the defunct LTTE form a battalion in the Sri Lanka army? The elite commanders of the defunct LTTE assume senior posts within the army!! We would be invincible!!!
ReplyDeleteFuck no. And who are you planning to fight anyway?
ReplyDelete"the elite cadres of the defunct LTTE form a battalion in the Sri Lanka army? The elite commanders of the defunct LTTE assume senior posts within the army"
ReplyDeleteNo, the LTTE cadres should be sent back to school. The LTTE commanders if they have not been imprisoned for war crimes will have to go back to their former professions i.e. smuggling, hair dressing, prostitution etc.
Yeah the CFA demand is PR alright, and it's a smart move on the part of the LTTE, coming on the heels of the GoSL's short-sighted withdrawal from the agreement. We presented them a PR coup for no gain to ourselves. Pure popularity move on the part of MR. It now makes the Tigers look like they're for peace while the GoSL just wants war.
ReplyDeleteexactly.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with DB.It was an unnecessary move by MR.It mounted useless attention to the crisis.Nw LTTE is trying to take the full advantage and make their case to the international community.Stupid political decisions like this will undermine the sacrifices of our defense forces.
LTTE's sudden peace quest and their attachment to the CFA shows how beneficial the CFA was.
ReplyDeleteBut their untimely ceasefire request is definetely a ploy to catch the army off-guard.
I agree ceasefire is OK provided they lay down arms.
Why didn't the delegation meet the big pig?
Is the big pig in such a bad shape that public display would be a bad PR move?
The problem with LTTE elite commandoes is that they are also like cannon fodder; once used they are dead.
Tamil Tigers say want truce, Norwegian peace role
ReplyDelete7 minutes ago
COLOMBO (AFP) - Tamil Tiger rebels said Thursday they were ready to revive a dying ceasefire abandoned by Sri Lanka's government and urged Norway to maintain its role as peace broker.
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In its first public reaction to the Sri Lankan withdrawal from the 2002 truce earlier this month, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) expressed willingness to salvage the ceasefire, the basis of a moribund peace process.
"The LTTE wishes to state that even at this juncture, it is ready to implement every clause of the CFA (ceasefire) agreement and respect it 100 percent," a statement from the rebels said.
"We also request that Norway should continue with its facilitation role with the support of the international community," it said. Sri Lanka's government last week signalled that it wanted Norway's role to end.
There was no immediate reaction from Norway, which together with the European Union, the United States and Japan, has expressed concern over Colombo's move to quit the truce and warned there could be more bloodshed.
The LTTE -- listed as a "terrorist" organisation by the US and the EU -- has also appealed to the international community to reconsider its ban and for recognition of the group's struggle for freedom.
The organisation wants the global community to "accept the just aspirations of the Tamil people, and recognise the right of the Tamil people to live with self-determination in their homeland."
The statement came after the head of the LTTE's political wing, B. Nadesan, met with the outgoing Sri Lanka Monitoring Mission (SLMM) chief Lars Solveberg.
The Tigers also sent a letter to the Norwegian government through Solveberg during their meeting in the rebel-held political capital of Kilinochchi in the island's north.
The government has prevented journalists and other diplomats from travelling to the region where heavy fighting claims a daily death toll according to the two sides.
The Tigers said they were "shocked" and "disappointed" with Colombo's decision to pull out of the truce.
This is in stark contrast to its stance in November, when the group's supremo, Velupillai Prabhakaran, in his annual policy statement, signalled they were ready for all-out war.
"Thousands of our fighters are standing ready to fight with determination for our just goal of freedom and we will overcome the hurdles before us and liberate our motherland," Prabhakaran said.
Sri Lanka's military began the New Year with a vow to crush the Tigers by June. They set a target to kill 3,000 guerrillas in the first six months and dismantle the rebels' mini-state in the north of the island.
President Mahinda Rajapakse also ruled out any negotiations with the Tigers before crushing them militarily. The authorities are confident that they enjoy the upper hand on the battlefield.
The Tigers in their latest statement said the government was not interested in a negotiated political settlement to Asia's longest-running ethnic conflict, which has claimed more than 60,000 lives since 1972.
Six rounds of direct peace talks and two further rounds aimed at saving the truce ended in October 2006, leaving the 2002 deal in tatters.
More than 6,000 people have been killed in fighting in the past two years alone, according to government figures.
From yahoo.com
One possible reason that the Government withdrew is that there is a set plan and timetable to capture Wanni, and that monitors would have just got on the way. So I wouldn't say it was a mistake until we see the results.
ReplyDeleteHowever the PR situation is tricky with the IC. The key is to be pro-active and not let the LTTE PR machine to get the higher ground.
If they have a time table that is also a another stupid political mistake. Making decisions for the political gain is what kept us from winning this war. I respect GR for trying to keep it to a minimum level this time around. But it seems that it has started again.
ReplyDeleteAnd lankapura, we cant afford to wait to see the results coz dis is not a ball game.Politicians must use dere brains once in a while else dey will destroy the victories of our brave soldiers.
well,well if it isn't ARSE-I-TRY(asithri), & his phony,so-called "patriotism",which by his(or hers-not sure!!),definition,means accepting everthin that MR & co do as "good for the country".oh please!! get a friggin life, u FAKE coward..i know you are a fellow,who pretends to be someone who isnt?..get it,scumbag??..u are indeed acting like a "shanghai surprise",igf u know what i mean,rat-fuck!!..go find somethin else to do,rather than polluting this blog,with ur arse-sucking..
ReplyDeleteshay,goldeneagle,
ReplyDeleteIqbal athas reported in Janes that we are gonna go for the Spike ATGM for our "Hinds"..majority of our Hinds are now being progressively updated,with night-vision sensors,FLIR,..in fact,the SLAF 2007 calender has a pix of one such Mi-35..
Er..the boss?
ReplyDeleteMBML=Multi-Barreled Mango Launcher?
Hmm..sounds interestin..anyways jaffna "karutha kolamban"mangoes are very tasty..yum yum
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ReplyDeleteSometimes i think to myself what r we doing here discussing defense issues like it really helps in the cause.cat v do anything useful dan dis.
After seeing the news abt Ron paul's money bomb concept which raised 5 million USD in 2 days,
i got a crazy idea.cant we start sumthing like dat to raise some money in order to buy sum weapons 4 the forces.Even if v can raise a little sum it would help in sum way.I know dis sounds bit overly optimistic.But seriously guys im sick of,doin nothing but arguing with pussy's like boss in here.
Please ppl consider this seriously,anyway im goin to go ahead with this idea sum hw !!!
Some Vanni News,
ReplyDeleteAfter my last post, poor Vanni Tech students have been given a tough time. Lot of grilling and threat to the extent of unimaginable to the whole family. Now nearly 100% of tasks at Vanni Tech are for LTTE, and serving LTTE war related work.
Here are some info about Charles. He has been a fairly "Do not care type personality" and known for Absolute Fearlessness, also a very playful personality (use to pull pranks on colleagues on daily basis). He has been very successful in leading from the front. His fearlessness has made him given more and more responsibilities in the hierarchy and has become a close confidante of Paripaharan.
Recently, after his 42nd birthday, he has been critical of few elements of the organization. In the meantime, Paripaharan has assigned him to investigate who leaked Thamul Selvam's location info leak.
The talk is that Charles was killed by Donald's group working under Ramesh and not by DPU/LRRP (-Poddu and Ramesh are very close friends).
Charles may have been planning to defect the organization, but LTTE may not kill him using a bomb, but Poddu would.
Some misteries remain.
Almost all the parts of Killinochchi is open for civilian traveling, and it is believed that Paripahran is moved to a location in Mullative North West. That part is pretty much closed to civilians now.
More news to follow.
With regard to LTTE's latest ploy - ceasefire buisness - I hope the government of MR cannot be fooled by the prospect of receiving a part or full of Nobel peace prize. I had my nail-biting moments in the past on hearing these things, but not any more. I think we have marched past that vacillating stage.
ReplyDeleteThe German ambassador brought this idea, sometime, back; if Chandrika was in power at that time, she would have warmed up to this idea - for her any western garland is a precious ornament.
I don't think MR is after those things. Thanks, heavens, after decades of suffering we are in the right hands, at last.
Nobel peace prize has become a political tool of the EU. It has always been a very controversial one. For instance, you guys may be surprised to know that Mr Mahathma Gandhi was never awarded with it! This shows the European interpretation of peace.
It was not the only problem with the contemporary Nobel foundation. Albert Einstein, who is synonymous with human intelligence, was awarded the prize for physics in 1921, for something he published in 1905!
So, our rulers can live without these awards or their prize money. It is not universally respected any more.
I am sure they will not play into the hands of the outfit again.
NB: If you guys are curious about the absence of an award for mathematics by the Nobel foundation, just drop a line here to that effect. I will drop a bombshell.
Bentz, I did not mean a fixed timetable of where to liberate and when. But it is reasonable to have a time frame which is basically a rough estimate by the commanders - let's say six months. The government then has to weigh up the advantages of having monitors interfering for that six months vs copping it from the IC for the six months. If it works out within the planned time, the damage from PR can be manageable. If it doesn't, the CFA withdrawal will backfire. This is all hypothetical ofcourse.
ReplyDelete"LTTE's sudden peace quest and their attachment to the CFA shows how beneficial the CFA was."
ReplyDeleteWhat rubbish. The CFA's been dead for years now, so getting the GoSL to remain a signatory means jack shit to the LTTE. It doesn't change the ground reality an iota. Can you tell me one single concrete advantage we gain by withdrawing from the CFA? On the other hand, the LTTE gets a moral advantage when politicians stupidly seek selfish short-term personal gain over the good of the country. As I said before, they can now tell the IC, "hey look we told you the GoSL just want war." And countries like the US which were quietly turning a blind eye to our military operations, no longer have the excuse of the CFA. They can no longer say they're backing a nation that has been forced to fight though it is committed to peace.
The GoSL should've stuck to the CFA, implemented the 13th Amendment, and continued military operations to defeat the LTTE.
And for all of you who think the CFA was a waste of time, remember that we were losing back in 2001 and the CFA gave us (as well as the LTTE) a chaance to retrain and rearm. Also, it is precisely because the NE Tamils and the lower ranks of the LTTE had a glimpse of real peace that we have been aable to recruit so many informaants thaat are now helping us track down the LTTE top brass. And we would not have had the TMVP breakaway either if not for the CFA.
"But their untimely ceasefire request is definetely a ploy to catch the army off-guard."
Really? How exactly is this PR excercise gonna catch the Army off guard? You thought the Army's full of idiots who were born yesterday?
"One possible reason that the Government withdrew is that there is a set plan and timetable to capture Wanni, and that monitors would have just got on the way. So I wouldn't say it was a mistake until we see the results."
There are no monitors on the battlefield anymore, aand there haaven't been for a long time. so it makes no difference. This was MR paying off the JVP for the budget vote while trying to get ssome popular backing. It's just party politics, for which the country will have to pay. The most optimistic bet will have the war going on for another year at the least, and the IC is fast losing patience. We've already been demoted from the UNHRC, losing our voting rights.
"After seeing the news abt Ron paul's money bomb concept which raised 5 million USD in 2 days,
i got a crazy idea.cant we start sumthing like dat to raise some money in order to buy sum weapons 4 the forces."
If the politicians stop stealing all the money, we'll have enough and wont need any money bombs. Your sentiment is good, but sadly a lot of that money will be siphoned off for Aston Martins and shopping sprees. If you really wanna do something, com back to SL and join the Army. Maybe you think you're too old, or don't wanna die, but there are many technical jobs for which people are needed (legal, medical, engineering, etc)
Well im not thinking of raising money and handing them over to politicians to waste.This is a initial thought and we have to work on that and come up with a plan to do that.
ReplyDeleteblacklightarrow, mate i dont think its the only option.Ya i knw im not doin the best thing,bt all im askin is cant we do anything??
blacklightarrow
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David Blacker
Same person?????
I heard the news that LTTE wants peace again! What a joke when they want SL has to be ready. GOSL has to make their mind to stick to one strategy if the lay down their arms then SL should be ready for talks with good political solution rather than talking nonsense. Otherwise LTTE will regroup again and will kill all intelligent (important) people in south & north.
ReplyDeleteWhy any body can’t analyze the whole history what happened when the CFA was in place?
LTTE went abroad to collect arms and didn’t go to CFA table…started to kill one by one in the south …so we still have be silence …this is bloody joke?
Stand up and fight against our rights….please
See the SL Tamil population in SL, almost 50% of the population in out side of North East (I am talking about Sri Lankan Tamils). For just 1.0mil people you have to give 1/3 of the country? Is it fair? Why we cant raise our voice ? why we always think about IC. First do the job war against terrorist then talk about the solution.
But as whole nation we need to be patience…enough is enough …
Even Karuna & other Tamil group know we will never get political solution with VP.
Can anyone in this blog evaluate last CFA and how it was abused by LTTE since 2002 please.
CFA was the shittest crap SL ever entered into. It served only tiger purposes.
ReplyDeleteIf not for the illfated CFA, SL would have joind the war on terror in 2002; not now.
CFA was drafted by the LTTE, for the LTTE; the uttur idiot Ranil as a matter of gratefulness for helping win the 2001 election agreed to it.
Remember the news conference with LTTE leaders after the CFA?
Anton bala clearly stated that it is a thing to "consolidate" their position towards Tamil elam. He also siad later that "we don't want Elam....we only want Tamil Elam" which his spokeswoman Ranil restated as "LTTE shed the Elam demand"! What a bloody idot?
Even world renowned defence analysts like Paul Haris criticised the CFA as the biggest ever betrayal.
Those fools who advocate a "ceasefire" and a war at the same time should know that waging war under the guise of a ceasefire is a WARCRIME!! Even misusing the white flag is also a warcrime.
Although VP, MR, GR, etc. got away with it, that is the international law.
The IC has enough brainy fellows to assess the correctness of the "ceasefire" that was ravished for 5 and a half years by both sides.
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ReplyDeleteAnother blogger claims this...
ReplyDeleteThe news is now confirmed that the ltte leader is infact critically injured in the abdomen...a western europian capital with its local tamil diaspora top slots was tipped to smuggle in medicos for the ltte leader and local and international intel agancies are on the look out for any developments...the gosl received a request from the ltte a few weeks ago which sources speculate were references to the ltte leader...
Vigilante-
ReplyDeleteCan you give us the reference URL for your news please.
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ReplyDeleteDoctors for sun dog?
ReplyDeleteVery much possible.
1. no public appearences AT ALL
2. TN stopped a doctor from traveling this week to Vanni
3. Nadesan begging for the CFA and for the norwegians to stay
4. LTTE chasing away NGOs from Mulaitivu not because they give info to army, etc. but they can leak the news
5. sun dog was suffering from diabitics; it is anybody's guess what it is like to be injured with that
6. putukudurippu, uruthipuram and other hideouts were repeatedly bombed by the SLAF
7. LTTE propoganda now concentrates solely on winning the sympathy of the IC and India (while carrying out suicide attacks!!)
8. there no proper operating theatres and doctors in Vanni suitable to treat the sun dog; anyone can tip off the DPU to finish him easily
i'm gonna sing;
twenty four years we've been living next door to praba
praba, praba, who the f. is praba
twenty four years waiting for a chance......
Guys, more than half of the comments above are replies to the ltte supporters' crazy comments... Why don't we just concentrate on things that matter?
ReplyDeleteanyone checked out \\cerno.wordpress site?
ReplyDeletefew interesting stuff on LTTE
"blacklightarrow
ReplyDelete&
David Blacker
Same person?????"
The Blacklight Arrow is the name of my blog, yes.
Bentz, if you have a foolproof way of ensuriing the money is used for military stuff, fine. How can you guarantee that?
Lankaputhra & Moshe Dayan, you have very blinkered views of the CFA, and your hindsight seems to reach only to the beginning of the CFA. Do you remember how things were before the CFA was signed? We had taken massive casualties, lost one of the biggest bases in the NE, the Army was understrength with its leadership in chaos, Jaffna under threat, soldiers deserting, recruitment dried up, the civilians were fed up, and we were out of money. If we hadn't signed the CFA we would've lost the war in the NE -- never mind the war on terror. And what were we gonnaa fight the war on terror with, Moshe -- piss & farts?
The problem wasn't the CFA, but its implementation. The CFA wasn't supposed to last six years. No temporary truce can stand such pressure. But things stagnated thanks to CBK, and the violence increased. Yes, we lost many int operatives, and the UNP should have done something but they didn't and lost the election. The new govt fought back and the war commenced. But if the CFA hadn't been in place, we'd have been losing bases and thousands of troops, not the few dozen int agents we did.
However, in the meantime, the security forces recruited, retrained, and rearmed, while the LTTE lost a part of their force to the TMVP, more to the tsunami, and our int agents recruited informers and practiced LRRP ops.
By the end of last year the war was in full tilt, and the CFA just on paper. It was all to our advantage -- we could pretend to want peace while disguising our offensives as "defensive ops". I repeat, what have we now gained by backing out of the CFA? Got rid of a few impotent observers, and telegraphed our intentions to all and sundry. Part of waar is disguising your intentions, not letting the cat out of the bag.
I repeat, if not for the CFA we would not have had the TMVP, the Army troops, the money, or the ability to retake the East. No CFA = no victory in the East. One has to be an idiot or a child not to understand that. We NEEDED the CFA as much as the Tigers did, and WE gained from it, not them. Yes, we had to sacrifice some pride to gain the breathing space needed to counterattack, but pride is bullshit -- victory is everything.
"Those fools who advocate a "ceasefire" and a war at the same time should know that waging war under the guise of a ceasefire is a WARCRIME!! "
Oh dear, boo hoo. What the hell do you think we've been doing for the past year -- playing gudu? You want to tell your enemy, "Oooh look, I'm coming to attack you, are you ready, count to ten... 1, 2, 3..." go ahead and commit suicide. War is about doing the unexpected, of pretending peace while attacking. Moshe Dayan? What a laugh. Why don't you read up a bit on the REAL Moshe Dayan and what he thought about war.
try this link.
ReplyDeleterecent LTTE camps bombed
backarrow,
ReplyDeleteDo not talk cock and bull stories here.
If you still believe in a "ceasefire" you are not matured enough to comment here; the ceasefire died on the next day it was signed. If you do not know what "ceasefire" means just expand the word; cease fire = ceasation of fire.
But in the SL CFA, firing increased manyfold!!
Do not talk about Moshe Dyan to me; he was one of the biggest war-monger the world has seen. He was not a pimp who would drop in his knees at the feet of terrorists.
The ltte's statement about their willingness to abide by the CFA.
ReplyDeleteBy coming at a time when the 'international community' is exploring options to force the govt back to the negotiating table (by restricting voting rights at the HRC, Indian Premire's cancelled visit, statement of Nordic countries etc etc)is intended to get them de-proscripted.
It's a very clever move. How do we counter this move?
David Blacker aka blacklightarrow..nice private blog u got there..
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ReplyDeleteGEagle..this PR move by the LTTE is brilliant.The reasons.
ReplyDelete1)it shows Hillary Clint that "the LTTE are fun loving good Fellows who the sinhalese buddist chavenistic govt has abused" and delaying tactic with the hope that hilary will be elected.The way things are now they will be dead by the time hilary is elected.
2)Ploy to keep norway on..i wonder if this has something to do with their activities in norway..
3)Rearm and start again.I think there are alot of injured cadres..Make troops loose morale and secondly plan a killing spree of VIP (including army personnel).
4)I have a feeling that the people in the north are kept "under lock and key" so in order to do this you actually need a force to guard them?..Also waiting till some poor northern kids are passed 18 yrs to forcibly recruit them.
"If you still believe in a "ceasefire" you are not matured enough to comment here"
ReplyDeleteIf you can't read and comprehend, you shouldn't even own a computer, idiot. I have clearly stated above why we needed the CFA. Upto last year we used the CFA to our advantage. Do you understand that, or has it to be explained to you in single syllabel words? If you can counter those points, please do so, if not go read a comic book or something equal to your IQ level. Perhaps you're too young to have adult memories of 2001, if so fine, but don't waste our time with your stupidity.
And don't insult Moshe Dayan by using his name as a front for your retarded views. Israel didn't get to where it is by bending over and saying "here's my arse, please kick it."
I repeat, what advantaage have we gained by backing out of the CFA? And please explain comprehensively what you think would've happened if we hadn't signed the CFA. I'll reiterate, since you have selective amnesia: EPS had fallen, Jaffna was under seige, the Army was understrength and commanded by an incompetent who had to telephone CBK in London for tactical orders while EPS was being overrun, no one was willing to join the Army, the civilians had lost faith in the security forces, and the GoSL was running out of cash. Tell us, Moshe, oh great strategist, what do you think would have happpened? Perhaps we would've miraculously conjurred up 50,000 new troops through genetic engineering? Or maybe we could have snapped our collective fingers and a new mechanised brigade would have appeared? Or perhaps Karuna out of the goodness of his heart would've agreed to hand over the East to us? Please tell us, we're dying to hear your wisdom.
The Blacklight Arrow posts are mine too. If I log in from my blog, it appears under the blog name.
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ReplyDeleteDear DefenceNet:How do we know for sure VP has succumbed to his injuries since we have not seen his body which should be subject to DNA testing .It may be a ploy to get him out of the country by granting him norweigian citizenship..
ReplyDeleteThe blog entry is here...
ReplyDeleteOur beloved LNP..
by specialforce
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/1/23455.html
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ReplyDelete" defencenet said...
ReplyDeleteLTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran has succumbed to his injuries 10. January at 2pm, reports say."
Guys the above post isn't by Defence Net I think. If you click on the user it links to a different profile from the real Defence Net.
It is most likely that P'karan is dead/injured and Pottuamman is running the show as he please...
ReplyDeleteFurther as some other blogger claimed recently Pottu killed TC first inorder to avoid a showdown..Then he decided to kill Velu..It looks to me, Pottu is executing his own agenda..Now Nadesan is helpless and calling for a ceasefire..News is also out that Velu's wife fled to India..
(http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20080109/866203.html)
Velu's son must be hiding or may be already dead/or incarcerated..
For the first time in history,in a position of weakness, LTTE is openly asking for a ceasefire...
Is this the real defencenet confirming the news or some blogger doing a round for us.
I figure out , it wasn't the real defencenet...
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ReplyDeleteseems like there are fake david blackers and fake defence net ID's on this blog...
ReplyDeletequickest way to check authencity is to check when the use has registered :)
nice try losers :)
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ReplyDeleteDefenceNet(the real one)
ReplyDeleteI think it's a bot time you ban some of these losers from the blog since it seems like in the past few days ot so the loser population is growing quite fast and attracting other losers...
some posters on LNP are quoting your fake identities posts as from yours and it's bad for this blog which has always been for accurate info...
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ReplyDeleteDB,i learnt a lot about claymores from your blog..think i might even build one at home..LOL!!
ReplyDelete"Bush vs. Zombies
ReplyDeleteBush Declares War on the Zombies"!!-on youtube..
what a pathetic piece o shit!!
declaring war on the undead???!!
its georgy bushy,after all..
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ReplyDeleteAs you may have already figured out, the comment about prabhakaran being dead was from a fake account. Some comments by fake accounts and related comments have been deleted. P.S. Vp is not dead.
ReplyDeletedefencenet
ReplyDeletePlease ban these fakes and trouble makers.
The GoSL should've stuck to the CFA, implemented the 13th Amendment, and continued military operations to defeat the LTTE.
ReplyDeleteTotally agreed !!!
Kiri,
ReplyDelete“Where is everyone getting the idea that LTTE are using inexperienced cadres in these frontline battles? Is this true?”
It’s mostly true. This has been confirmed by military intelligence as well as by the soldiers on the frontline.
"Where is everyone getting this idea that the "LTTE elite cadres are being saved" ?
So far they have been rarely used (except in a few times where Charles Anthony cadres were used to
counterattack Mannar offensive). Around 2500 cadres of Imran Pandiyan, Charles Anthony and Jeyanthan brigade are yet to be deployed into battle.
goldeneagle,
"So this means our army is going to increase to about 195,000 by the end of this year right?
And if so, can we afford such a large army?"
That figure is about right (provided that we do recruit 15000 this year). As for economical impact, yes its a money drainer. Anyway we do have around 225000 personnel in all tri forces with 15000 in SLAF, 20000 in SLN (plus another 8000 in STF, which is part of Sri Lanka Police).
hasalaka,
"is shanker dead?"
yes he was shot by STF yesterday.
David,
"DefNet, you've said that the Mechanized Inf Div is the latest addition to the 53rd Div. How is this possible? You cannnot add on division into aanother. Isn't it a mechanised infantry BRIGADE that is to be added to the 53rd?"
Techinically it's a brigade just like the Air Mobile Brigade (which is also under 53rd). Since it's commonly reffered to as the MID in military we posted that here too. But it's not a division.
sl,
"Can anyone shed some light on how big or small this Shankar LTTE terrorist is?"
The one who was killed yesterday cannot be compared to Shankar (Swarnalingam) who was killed by LRRP back in 2001. He was Prabhakaran's right hand man. One who was shot dead by the STF yesterday is a regional leader
for LTTE in Batticaloa. He''s not that high up in LTTE command chain.
b#1,
"there is a rumor that schools going to close for three months.. is it true???"
We do not have any information nregarding this. sorry.
srilankan,
"Dear DefenceNet:How do we know for sure VP has succumbed to his injuries since we have not seen his body which should be subject to DNA testing .It may be a ploy to get him out of the country by granting him norweigian citizenship.."
That comment was from a fake account. VP is not dead. (at least according to our information).
Many thanks DefenceNet
ReplyDeleteDavid Blacker
ReplyDeleteI truly agree with you about the CFA,seriously and sadly misunderstood has more advantages than disadvantages.It was done at the time when we were losing the lot in those dark days of EP.The war was led by an idiotic car sales man,the fake general Ratwatte.If not for the CFA,we would have been overun even more,with more loss of life.
Some of the hardcore have left the shores to take part in fund raising and organising rallies,etc for the terrorists as their usual supporters are gradually escaping their hold and going about with their own lives, fearing a roundup by the authorities in the West. One hard core fellow working at restaurant at Latin quarter in Paris has revealed to his boss that they have after the Eastern debacle has hidden their arms and ammo with buried dead and this info. have been conveyed to our people. This means there aren’t many in their ranks who may be hard core in great numbers. Remember the EP was surrounded by a 1000 or was commanded by Karuna.When the likes of banu and Balraj are in the front line now, one expect the hardcore to be with them. I think they may look for a way out, unless the gosl is foolish and corrupt enough to let that happen. They might escape to TN and Burma and even Thailand, where that rascal KP is living, to fight another day.
ReplyDeleteVanni Tech more drama..
ReplyDeleteLTTE bitches have gone berserk!
"seems like there are fake david blackers and fake defence net ID's on this blog.."
ReplyDeleteThere are no fake David Blackers. As I've explained already, posts under the name of David Blacker and the Blacklight Arrow are by the same person, the latter being the name of the former's blog. Hope it's all clear now.
DefNet, suggest you put some measures into place to prevent impersonation of posters as well as yourself, if you wish to retain the site's credibility. Yesterday's fiasco over VP's supposed death shouldn't be repeated. It's quuite simple to install software that prevents duplication of a name. Many blogs (like indi.ca) use it.
weldone defencener we hope ur fight in future against liers
ReplyDeleteA list of evils of the CFA. Not exhaustive.
ReplyDeleteCFA created lawlessness
1. CFA violated the constitution and many other laws that were put in place after extensive thought by mainly JRJ and his team to defend the country and its people from terrorists, et al. Checks and balances were also put in place to force adherence to lawfulness. This was completely destroyed by the CFA which never had any legal standing in SL. Major rifts were created between the 3 branches of the govt. The dispute in little lanka was converted to a conflict between two nations (one de jure and the other de facto). International conflicts are much worse than internal conflicts.
2. CFA recognized LTTE controlled areas as a separate de facto state. This stopped all law enforcement beyond govt. controlled areas as long as the CFA was to be adhered to. Police stations returned complainants of child soldiers in places like Batti where previously the police and army could exert law and order.
3. This international conflict became unsolvable as there was no legitimacy for one party and it started acting up irresponsibly. It is like North Korea where there was nothing the IC could do to handle it until it voluntarily (supported by carrots and sticks) gave up nuke tests. Without a CFA the IC would never had to worry about the wishes of the LTTE’s de facto state
4. All foreign VIPs visited the LTTE unless stopped by the govt (to the dismay of the IC). This reinforced the notion of a separate state further.
5. CFA created GOSL area, LTTE area and a no-man’s land (NL); this NL became the breeding ground of other terror groups. TMVP was one such product; the CFA multiplied the number of terror groups. Another Muslim group was also present when the govt. could not do anything to stop the serial killing of Muslims during CFA.
6. CFA made NGOs in N-E uncontrollable as many started to report to LTTE and not the GOSL. They brought war material, telecom equip. for tigers and the govt. was tied to the CFA that for the sake of ‘peace’ had to ignore such acts.
7. CFA took away all checkpoints that were a part of the City’s law enforcement (not only against terrorists) without any security assessment. A large number of bombs and sleepers crept to areas outside war zones. Their true strength is undeniably yet to be seen.
8. The CFA contained a section demanding the govt. to dismantle the LRRP. The elitist security force in the country was thus dismantled; national security went to dogs.
9. CFA allowed the LTTE to collect ransom along main highways and elsewhere from visitors and there was nothing the govt could do to stop that. Billions were collected and went into terror acts.
10. CFA imposed a ban on the govt. from carrying out development work through its agencies functioning in LTTE controlled areas (including the RDA, etc.). Under development was a root cause of this war and it further strengthened the LTTE position
11. Foreign donors had to give the TRO indirect funding as they recognized a de facto separate state. By the time they realized that TRO money went into buying 32,000 mortars, etc. etc. it was too late. TRO got money from 2002 to 2007 November from the US until its assets were frozen.
12. CFA became the criteria for foreign aid to SL. This was the most powerful tool the IC used to force SL to comply. Also the CFA caused a split in aids SL would get as the de facto state also got some.
13. CFA created an environment of impunity where any group could do anything especially in the no-man’s land (this was created by the CFA although not recognized by the CFA) and in each other’s territory. Of course acts in one’s own territory were out of the question.
14. The CFA created a major regional rift between Northerners and Easterners. A large number of Jaffna intellectuals (and others) were killed in the East and in Colombo. This problem is set to escalate in time to come making it impossible to find an amicable solution for N-E even when the war is over as infighting has already broken out among the two main tamil communities in the N-E with historical under-the -carpet grudges.
15. A toothless SLMM replaced the armed police force as the point of making grievances. Many deaths were not even recorded by SLMM (some brought coffins to SLMM) and police also redirected people to SLMM. Today it has become more difficult than in 2001 to bring Tamils to police stations to handle their grievances for which they pay a tax to the govt. The CFA created distance is taking a heavy toll. TMVP should not be allowed to exploit this.
CFA destroyed the Tamil democratic movement
16. CFA recognized the LTTE as the SOLE REPRESENTATIVE of the Tamils. All tamil democratic forces were made irrelevant. In finding a political solution, it is these Tamil democrats who would become vital. The IC was forced to recognize Tamil and LTTE as same.
17. Almost all moderate tamil legislators were killed during the CFA - UNP tamil candidates for Batti in 2004; Kadir, Joseph, Raviraj, Maheswaran, etc. This further enforced the LTTE as the SR and caused any future attempts for political solutions impossible.
18. CFA forced the UNP not to field Tamils for Jaffna, etc. going by the SR claim. This directly resulted in returning ultra extremist Tamil MPs to parliament. The vote base for Mahes, etc. were destroyed and replace by a TNA one.
19. Extremism crept into parliament first from the Tamil side (TNA took all UNP, SLFP, TULF and some EPDP seats). This was also reflected in the Sinhala and Muslim camps. Almost one third of today’s parliament comprise of extremists making it impossible to find political solutions.
20. The SR claim and its respect mainly from the UNP (a MoU was signed) helped tigers to block voters from voting for the UNP in 2005 which was seen as a moderate party then. The IC criticized this but had to accept this as a result of contracting with a terror group. The UNP, CWC, UPF, WPF, TNA, SLMC all had MoUs with the LTTE as the CFA recognized them as the SR and rulers of the de facto state.
21. Ask any LTTE supporter and he will tell you that LTTE and Tamil people are one and the same. But factually it is not so. The CFA legitimized this LTTE claim. Sections of the IC started to increasingly refer to the LTTE as Tamils and vice versa as they were the de facto rulers of the Tamil mono-ethnic de facto state recognized by the CFA.
22. Tamil democratic movements (TULF UK, etc.) abroad were the most harmed. They became just offices without any recognition both by the IC and the Tamil Diaspora.
CFA strengthened the LTTE militarily as never before
23. The govt was deterred from carrying out military operations by the CFA. Although the 2005 elect ‘hardline’ govt was an exception, both previous administrations strictly honored this as SLMM’s recommendations were like God’s say for donors. LTTE brought shiploads of weapons (only a few were destroyed). The present Navy commander was warned by Ranil not to engage the tigers at sea! Tigers assembled an air force thanks directly and solely for the CFA. LTTE’s mortar and arti capabilities increased by many fold.
24. The CFA paved the way for Manirasakulam, Muttur, etc. new LTTE camps
25. CFA allowed more than enough time to regroup and recruit its cadres. A mad rush for recruiting children was undertaken and there was nothing the govt. could do to maintain peace and goodwill at the same time until a hardliner took office. Also the LTTE bought enough time for many of its children to become adults as thee CFA held for almost 6 years; even a twelve year old could have turned 18 by then!!
26. LTTE engaged in direct arms import and negotiations with foreign arms suppliers. Part govt. owned arms producers like NORINCO - China had no hesitation in providing arms to representatives of a de facto state.
27. LTTE delegations were sent on foreign trips at public expense with no return. They visited arms suppliers in Norway, South Africa, Croatia, etc.
28. LTTE dismantled not only the Colombo based LRRP but also many other mainly tamil anti-LTTE militant groups.
29. Ships that did not fly the TE flag were plundered by the LTTE with impunity and stole their valuables including radars and there was nothing the GOSL could do.
30. CFA violations by the GOSL (mainly in offensive operations) were overly highlighted to the IC by the SLMM. Other HR violations by the GOSL were also overly emphasized thanks to SLMM’s first hand accounts.
31. SLAF bombings on LTTE areas were promptly visited by the SLMM and recorded. This heavily deterred the GOSL from carrying out some planned air strikes especially in important locations obviously located among civilian settlements. At times tigers sent SLMM officers to potential air attack locations to actively stop the SLAF.
32. Sencholai terror camp was converted to an orphanage by the SLMM. If not for the injured children who escaped and hospitalized, the IC would have believed this and SL would face a heavy war crime charge.
33. Army had to scale down their operations to give an impression of ‘retaliation’ or ‘neutralisation’ than an offensive operation as offensive operations stood out most noticeably in SLMM’s record to the account of GOSL. The IC placed heavy reliance on ‘independent’ SLMM as other journalists were bared from Vanni by both groups.
34. From 2002 to early 2004, the GOSL did not contract for major military purchases to sustain the CFA goodwill. It took a long time to rectify the situation in 2006. It also took a long waiting time to get firefinders, etc. Had there been a proper war plan from 2002, this would never have happened. The govt. by taking on the easy east first minimized this planning disaster.
Lost opportunities thanks to the CFA
35. All ceasefires must be bargained from a position of strength. In 2002 SL was in a position of strength vis-à-vis the LTTE. After the july 2001 attack, the LTTE didn’t launch any major attacks but the army was continuing small scale operations. LTTE leaders were dead scared of the LRRP and refused to comeout of their foxholes (refer. Wikipedia - LRRP). However, the political leadership was at its weakest partly due to Ranil (a weak leader) and partly due to infighting between the executive and the legislature. A war on terror had started and the LTTE was desperately seeking shelter. SL could have bargained adequately for a pole position. Whenever Israel goes to a ceasefire it actively CAPITALISE on military gains and the world order. There by each ceasefire with Palestine strengthens Israel’s position, not undermine it.
36. After the CFA, the clam that existed from July 2001 to Feb 2002 on the LTTE front shattered as tigers could do whatever they wanted. A CFA breakdown would have been a deadly blow to the UNP govt and it did EVERYTHING to keep it going by pleasing the LTTE in EVERY WAY imaginable.
37. By 2001 the LRRP was closing in on LTTE leaders; they successfully took the life of Shankar the TAF guy. Had that operation delayed by just 4 months he would be saved by the CFA and SL would have completely lost its air superiority to this innovative tiger. Russian Shmels were procured at great effort and were left to decay without use. These cannot be purchased in the open market and SL needs diplomatic efforts to get them again.
38. The war on terror provided SL an ideal opportunity to crush the tigers. But the CFA saved them. Indonesia, Philippines, Congo, India, Pakistan used the war on terror to crush terrorists in their countries. As usual SL lagged behind. Good thinking by the LTTE and no thinking by the GOSL.
39. The tsunami brought hope again. Aceh in Indonesia used the tsunami to disarms Aceh terrorists and many hoped the same will happen in SL. But there was the CFA and the govt. was committed to honour it. GOSL didn’t even move in to CFA’s de facto TE let alone disarm the LTTE or get them to talks.
40. The JVP that talk nonsense now were actually backing the CFA from 2004 May to March 2005. CFA violations by the GOSL became minimum during that time!! The extremist politics that resulted from the lawlessness brought about by the CFA strengthened the likes of JVP/JHU/TNA. They will ensure that no political solution will be passed in SL. Had there been no CFA, TNA would not be so strong, moderate Tamil MPs would come from N-E, JVP would have run out of ammunitions (at least part of it), JHU would never be there.
Continuation of the CFA
41. CFA made the internal conflict an international conflict. According to international war laws, no country can colonies another country’s captured area. However this does not apply to internal conflicts. (refer warcrimes Geneve and wikipedia - warcrimes). Today colonization of the east is a major agitation run by pro-LTTE groups abroad. If the CFA did not recognize a separate territory within SL, this claim could never be made. However, the GOSL is continuing with its ‘settlements’. It can continue regardless, but this creates a lot of confusion in IC. The IC’s apprehension of SL’s conflict has always been highly inadequate. This always helped the LTTE. Unless officially invalidated, the colonization of the East and the North become warcrimes in the eyes of an outsider who considers (going by the CFA) that there IS a de facto LTTE area with separate jurisdictions and civil administrations.
42. Misusing a “flag” of truce is a warcrime. “Flag” is not per se a flag only and can be any instrument by which a party signals to the other warring party it is not going to attack and seek reciprocal action. The CFA was a tool of truce that actually stopped the army from carrying out large scale operations. Now the attrition warfare stage is changing and large scale military operations are needed to get into deep Vanni. The govt. must officially annul the CFA to avoid all confusion that can go against it in the event of a large scale offensive. Some Serbian officers were charged for unleashing violence during ceasefires. Although this is not at all practical in SL as violence was part of the CFA from day one, large scale military offensives will certainly take the GOSL beyond the line in the sand. Arguably, they may be committing a warcrime if tools of a truce was held out while waging large scale open warfare.
43. The SLMM in Vanni is a big disadvantage to war games in Vanni. They are not only witnesses to a bloody war that is yet to unfold, but also ‘adjudicators’ of methods and tools used by the SLDFs. They cannot be ‘eliminated’ as the LTTE (and others!) eliminated aid workers, Catholic priests, etc. Hence only an official ending of the CFA can send them. LTTE understand this too well. It made two separate pleadings. One - continue the CFA and they will 100% adhere to it this time. Two - Norwegians to continue.
44. CFA continues to recognize a separate de facto state controlled by the LTTE. CFA also recognizes the fact that LTTE has a right to rule its territory just as GOSL has a right to rule its territory. The IC has placed faith in the CFA although it was illegal as per SL law. The SL territorial law became immaterial for the IC after the CFA. Therefore, attacking the heartland of LTTE controlled area will never be accepted by the IC as long as the CFA is in place and the government purports to adhere to it as it declared from time to time.
45. The LTTE was planning to declare a UDI on the 18th January 2008. The CFA officially ends on 16th January, narrowly escaping the LTTE attempt to continue from one platform to another. An UDI from a status of a de facto state as officially recognized by the GOSL is an easier jump than a leap by a political non-entity. As the GOSL knew the LTTE’s plan of a pre-planned UDI on 18 January, some late planning seems to have gone in annulling the CFA before hand.
46. Norway came to the CFA with its own agenda. It had Tamil voters back home heavily aligned to LTTE. It is like asking Ricky Ponting whether his team mate took the catch cleanly!! Therefore Norway always had a protectionist approach towards the LTTE. Cognizant of this fact, in 2006 LTTE sent off all other Scandinavian monitors but not Norway!!
47. Norway had other interests in SL like oil. Two Norwegian oil companies were charged by the US for providing material support for terrorists (not LTTE). But this justifies their overall alignment to the de facto rulers of where oil is. Australia followed a similar strategy in East Timor but it was like a SLMM with teeth where they mediated in ET in 2001. Now Australia companies are drilling oil in ET seas! But ET citizens are the poorest in the world.
Contrary to some predictors of diplomatic events, Sri Lanka did well in managing foreign relations in its favour. When Tamil Chelvam was killed no one thought the US will freeze TRO funds. How the IC especially the US works is different to popular belief. They seek a solution to conflicts and support any movement that gathers strength (unless it is against their interests of course). But SL must up its HR record.
FBI tries to reiterate the ruthlessness of tigers. Does this show the failure of our diplomats? I think so.
"CFA created lawlessness"
ReplyDeleteWhat nonsense. SL has been (and is) very lawless anyway. Corruption amongst politicians, the civil and government services, customs and excise, the police force etc is rife. To say that the CFA created lawlessness is downright stupid. Do you live in SL, Moshe?
1. "This was completely destroyed by the CFA which never had any legal standing in SL. "
Truces and ceasefires do not have to be constitutional or approved by courts. They're temporary measures designed to halt violence and war.
2. "CFA recognized LTTE controlled areas as a separate de facto state. "
It did not. The CFA specifically stated for instance that the LTTE could not operate in the seas around the NE. A de facto state would have that right. On the contrary the MoD had insisted (long before the CFA) that NE residents must have official permission to travel south. In other words a visa. So the de facto state you claim if at all was created long before the CFA. So at most the CFA acknowledged that the GoSL was unable to control certain areas of the country.
"This stopped all law enforcement beyond govt. controlled areas as long as the CFA was to be adhered to"
Prior to the CFA there was NO law enforcement outside GoSL areas. So your problem is that the CFA acknowledged this. Embarrassing, I know, but a fact.
"Police stations returned complainants of child soldiers in places like Batti where previously the police and army could exert law and order. "
This was mostly after the TMVP split, when Karuna started conscripting children in the Battti area, and the GoSL decided to turn a blind eye.
3. "This international conflict became unsolvable as there was no legitimacy for one party and it started acting up irresponsibly."
To the contrary, the CFA enabled both parties to talk on an equal footing, while recognising only the legitimacy of the GoSL.
"It is like North Korea where there was nothing the IC could do to handle it until it voluntarily (supported by carrots and sticks) gave up nuke tests."
:) That is probably the most absurd example you could've picked. There was no open conflict between N Korea and the IC. There were also many things the IC could do about N Korea which they were unwilling to. In SL, the LTTE had fought the GoSL to aa stand still and the latter had no choice but to agree to a truce.
5. "CFA created GOSL area, LTTE area and a no-man’s land (NL)"
Rubbish. There already was an LTTE area, a GoSL area, and a no-man's land long before the CFA. The laatter just recognised that fact, one which most right-wingers refused to acknowledge. The hatred you have for the CFA is the fact that this was embarrassingly proven to you.
"his NL became the breeding ground of other terror groups. TMVP was one such product; the CFA multiplied the number of terror groups."
Again Moshe you display your ignorance of even recent SL history. It wasn't the CFA that CREATED the TMVP. The CFA gave Military Intelligence the opportunity to tempt Karuna away, a fact you should be thankful for, because without the TMVP we wouldn't have captured the East, just as without Dougie's EPDP we wouldn't be having the successes we see in the North.
6." CFA made NGOs in N-E uncontrollable as many started to report to LTTE and not the GOSL."
NGOs operating in LTTE areas never reported to the GoSL before the CFA and were basically uncontrolled. I myself have watched through a scope as French MSF personnel treated LTTE battlefield casualties close to Vasavilan in '91. During the CFA the media was able to highlight this embarrassing fact, which many people (like you, I presume) didn't know before.
"They brought war material, telecom equip. for tigers and the govt. was tied to the CFA that for the sake of ‘peace’ had to ignore such acts."
In fact, large consignments of equipment destined for the LTTE were brought in through the Colombo Port (including it's suspected, the LTTE aircraft), thanks to corrupt politicians, police officers, aand customs. This had nothing to do with NGOs or the CFA.
"7. CFA took away all checkpoints that were a part of the City’s law enforcement (not only against terrorists) without any security assessment."
Again, utter nonsense. Please quote to me the CFA clause that forbids Colombo checkpoints. This was a decision of the GoSL. But since you earlier claimed that the CFA was unconstitutional, you must be pleased to know that the checkpoints were also unconstitutional according to the SC and ordered removed last month.
"8. The CFA contained a section demanding the govt. to dismantle the LRRP. The elitist security force in the country was thus dismantled; national security went to dogs."
Ha ha your ignorance seems to have no limits. Please tell me which claause of the CFA states that LRRP units must be disbanded. The CFA stated that neither the LTTE nor the GoSL may undertake military operations within the other's territory. Both sides ignored this and continued. The LRRPs were dispanded because of a lack of communication between the MoD, the police, and the politicians, resulting in a police raid on a LRRP safehouse and a resultant conspiracy theory.
"9. CFA allowed the LTTE to collect ransom along main highways and elsewhere from visitors and there was nothing the govt could do to stop that. Billions were collected and went into terror acts."
The LTTE has always extorted taxes (both here and abroad) and no one could stop it (least of all the GoSL). Did you think LTTE extortion started with the CFA? :)
"10. CFA imposed a ban on the govt. from carrying out development work through its agencies functioning in LTTE controlled areas (including the RDA, etc.)."
This is incorrect. RDA carried out work in the Vavuniya area (for example) in 2002 aand 2003. You may check with the RDA for exact dates and locations. However, the LTTE refused to allow Army personnel to provide RDA with security, and once the TMVP-LTTE fighting started, the RDA refused to continue work.
"12. CFA became the criteria for foreign aid to SL. This was the most powerful tool the IC used to force SL to comply."
So? Are you saying that once we signed the CFA we should've refused to abide by it?
I'm afraid Moshe, that I haven't the time to wade through the rest of your long list of nonsense. I'm sorry, but it's mostly rubbish, and the stuff a teenager would come up with. Going by the above, it looks like you haven't a clue about the CFA and the ground realities in SL. I have indulged you by responding to twelve of your points, but I haven't the paatience to go further. I hope you'll educate yourself a bit on the subject before just wasting time. Maybe then we can discuss it again, but at the moment it's absurd 'cos you don't know what you're talking about.